RE: Sky+ with Tivo

["Nigel Giddings" <nigel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Paul,

I think your description below is correct.

For sometime I used two receivers with the Sky multi-room package
allowing one rx'er to be dedicated to TiVo. My TiVo, records 12 hours
plus a day so the dedicated TiVo Sky rx'er is kept busy.

I got round the failed channel changes by using a Sky Box IR rx'er
connected to RF2 of the digibox and placed it in a sealed box with the
TiVo IR Transmitter... Blanked off the front of the Digi Box and turned
off the IR Blaster on the TiVo for good measure.

I recently took advantage of the Sky+ upgrade and now have a dedicated
Sky digibox (with multi-room) for the TiVo, this happens to be in the
basement in the new house. I use my X-Box to watch the TiVo which is a
great feature.

I Now have the Sky+ box in the living room in the cottage for use by
those in the living room (main viewing room).

Some of the features I like about Sky+:
1. Ability to record a channel and watch another. A+
2. Ability to record two channels. A+

Some of the features I don't like about Sky+: (and why TiVo is better)
1. Unable to watch anything when no satellite signal present. (I have a
tree problem)
2. Unable to search for program by name search.
3. Program must be in EPG to enable it to be recorded (EPG only 1 week)
4. Searching through EPG for programs is tedious.
5. Unreliable recording of series. (Example. Waking the dead on Sunday
with part 2 on Monday. Sky+ does not recognise Monday episode as part
2!)
6. Fast forward through programs does not show progress bar.
7. When you start watching a program that has already begun and catch up
with real time, by FF through adverts, it gives error message saying you
have reached end of recording. (TiVo just continues to play in real
time...)

Some benefits of TiVo that Sky+ doesn't even try:
1. TiVoweb, recorded many programs using XDAII and modified ToDo list
2. Integration with XBMC
3. Ability to pick programs you might like.
5. Season passes that work, currently have 500+
6. Ability to prioritise Season Passes (What does Sky+ do when a future
schedule clashes after you have set it???)
6. 10 Second step back when you hit play while FF'wding, just makes
skipping adverts easier.


I haven't played with MS Media player, and would be interested to make a
similar list


I feel better now.....

Nigel


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 October 2005 12:32
To: UKHA_D Group
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Sky+ with Tivo

Thanks very much, - that worked a treat...

However, I should have done my research first, (in typical UKHA fashion
I just leapt in when I spotted a B.. B.. Bargain!) (tm Phil Harris 2001)

My plan was that one of the 2 tuners in the + box would be dedicated to
the Tivo, so there would no longer be any SWMBO issues with clashes
between Tivo recording something off Sky, and SWMBO simultaneously
wanting to watch something else off Sky... - I kept having to tell her
that If Tivo is recording she wasn't allowed to change the sky channel -
never a popular rule....

Unfortunately, it seems like my best laid plans might have gone awry,
since if what I've read is right, the Sky+ box only has 1 decoder, and
thus can only provide 1 viewable, decoded video feed at a time... - I
haven't tested this myself, but it seems to be suggesting that actually
"watching" 2 different channels in real time is impossible...
(recording
with the sky+ not being an issue, since it records the raw unencrypted
MPEG stream).

If it turns out to be true that I still can't provide Tivo with it's own
dedicated feed, it *may* be time for me to part company with it... :-(

Not much point in having two separate PVR's in the same room... the Sky+
can take over the recording duties for the main stuff I use the bedroom
one for (Stargate, Star Trek mainly!). I'll lose the Tivo suggestions
recordings of course, but in truth, I think I could live with that...
and the upside would of course be:

A UI that I CAN read from in bed
NO MORE failed channel changes!

Hmmm... I'll have to mull on this one for a bit... - To keep Tivo, or to
part with Tivo, that is the question...

Paul G.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> Paul Robinson
> Sent: 16 October 2005 12:09
> To: UKHA_D Group
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Sky+ with Tivo
>
> From here:
> http://www.garysargent.co.uk/tivo/stb.htm
>
> advice is:
>  Pace Sky+
> Supported: use code 20017 under manufacturer Pace. This will send the
Sky
> key before each
> channel change to turn the box on. If you don't want the Sky key sent
use
> 20010 instead.
>
> I don't have Sky+ though...
>
> HTH
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Gordon" <paul@xxxxxxx>
> To: "UKHA_D Group" <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:58 AM
> Subject: [ukha_d] Sky+ with Tivo
>
>
> > Just had my old Grundig Sky box in the bedroom upgraded to a new
Sky+
> > box (of Amstrad manufacture), and I've now hit a problem trying
to
find
> > the right IR Code set in Tivo to allow Tivo to control it...
> >
> > Does anyone here have Tivo controlling a Sky+ box?
> >
> > What code set do you use?
> >
> > Thanks all
> >
> > Paul G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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