RE: Now Treo 650s, was New Sonos Player

["White, Peter" <peter.white@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

We're on the latest firmware flash (the handsets aren't tied to a network,
which is important, as the Orange firmware upgrades are always months
behin=
d
the 'generic' ones).  Aside from GoodLink, we don't really have any other
apps on there, but they still crash - it's a fact of Treo life.  The
annoying thing is when it dies, reboots itself, but doesn't turn the phone
back on - you only realise that when you go to make a call.  There's even
apps available that solve that problem, which just goes to show that the
crashing is not unusual.
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As a phone it's fine - the on-board speakerphone is also good enough to use
in a quiet office.  It also works well with the Parrot Bluetooth car kits.
As a PDA, we use the GoodLink suite, so it's all OTA (Over the Air)
sync'in=
g
with the Exchange server - works a dream.  I've dropped it once or twice,
and apart from the memory card pinging out, there's no problem with it.
Bearing in mind we've got 80 of 'em in the hands of mobile engineers, we've
only had 2 fail so far, and that was just because a button fell off.
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Our deal is with O2 - as far as I know they still haven't fixed their
billing system, so can't actually charge for data on certain tariffs...I
know our tariff (something around =A323 per month for 750 min anytime/any
network mins, 50 SMS and unlimited data) isn't capped for data, but
obviously that's on a bulk corporate deal.  And they threw a stack of cash
at us!
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Pete

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From: Chris Hunter [mailto:cjhunter@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 28 December 2005 08:55
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Now Treo 650s, was New Sonos Player


Peter -

Thanks ... good info' ... 'wonder if there's a down-load to fix the=20=20
crashes, or maybe they're due to reception problems ?

'never have been a fan of our '6310s, though - the user interface=20=20
doesn't flow, for me at least, and one of our two is too prone to=20=20
cutting-out part-way through a call ... much preferred our old=20=20
Triums, until after some years their batteries expired ... 'wife now=20=20
has a Motorola clamshell, which seems pretty good, and I'm making-do=20=20
with the better Nokia until the Treo ...

Incidentally, I was looking at getting the Treo with a new Vodafone=20=20
any-network deal, but when I ran a spreadsheet on what's on offer via=20=20
Expansys I found the cross-over less than a year ahead, so I think=20=20
we'll be sticking with my current 'card ... either-way, e-mail costs=20=20
extra, of course, or as far as I can find out, at 2.34GBP per 2Meg=20=20
(IIRC), so I hope it has good filters, to control the downloads !   =
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My main interest, however, is in its 'phone & pda functions
(having=20=20
dropped & cracked the screen of my Palm, and pencil & paper
not=20=20
giving me quite the same functionality!)

Chris


On 27 Dec 2005, at 20:43, White, Peter wrote:

> They're pretty good.  If, like a lot of my staff, you're used to=20=20
> using a
> trusty Nokia 6310, then the hanging and crashing that tend to
occur=20=20
> every
> few days is annoying, but in my experience no worse than any other
> smartphone.  We've got mobile engineers using them, and so far I=20=20
> think we've
> had 2 go back under warrantee due to the main select button
falling=20=20
> off.
> Personally I love the Treo's, and paired with GoodLink (push
email)=20=20
> they're
> easily better than Blackberry, though even the on-board Verso
mail=20=20
> isn't too
> bad, and can be config'd to sync with gmail (or whatever) every
5=20=20
> mins, so
> whilst not true push, still not bad for a freebie app.
>
> Pete
>
>    _____
>
> From: Chris Hunter [mailto:cjhunter@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 27 December 2005 10:53
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New Sonos Player
>
>
> OK - I didn't read it carefully enough ... great offer only if you
> live in the US ... still, seems an exceptional offer ...
>
> since you said nothing to the contrary, I guess the many Treos you
> bought have proved to be the right choice ... I did try several times
> to buy one a week ago, and found PC World shops had the best prices -
> 380GBP ... but everytime they'd just sold their last one ...
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 27 Dec 2005, at 10:34, Chris Hunter wrote:
>
> > Thanks - yesterday via Google I saw them at possibly 299USD -
> >
> > http://web.palm.com/promos/ <http://web.palm.com/promos/>
<http://web.palm.com/promos/
<http://web.palm.com/promos/> >
> >
treo650_100_rebate.jhtml;jsessionid=3DLAC3OMFBYNRCUCQFGJDCFFQKAUZEOIV0
> >
> > made me suspect a new model must be on the way ... !
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 27 Dec 2005, at 09:53, White, Peter wrote:
> >
> > > We had to buy about 100 Treos a couple of months ago.....the
> > > pricing we got
> > > from Sprint and Cingular didn't work out any cheaper than
the=20=20
> price
> > > we got
> > > in the UK (=A3320 per handset, then a =A3250 hardware credit
from the
> > > airtime
> > > provider).  Even without the credit, the US handsets didn't
work
> > > out any
> > > cheaper - Expansys have them listed at $580 at the moment,
so
> > broadly
> > > comparable.
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > >    _____
> > >
> > > From: Chris Hunter [mailto:cjhunter@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 26 December 2005 23:30
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New Sonos Player
> > >
> > >
> > > On the subject of buying things in the US, I notice that
Treo 650s
> > > are much cheaper there than here ... they may be about to
> > discontinue
> > > them, for I know ... but I was wondering if it would work
here=20=20
> if I
> > > bought it there ... they are multi-band, I think ...
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > On 26 Dec 2005, at 22:08, White, Peter wrote:
> > >
> > > > Go on then, whatd'ya know????
> > > >
> > > > I'm over in Dallas at the end of Jan and there's a
Sonos=20=20
> reseller
> > > > there, so
> > > > need to start compiling my shopping list!
> > > >
> > > > Pete
> > > >
> > > >    _____
> > > >
> > > > From: Gareth Cook [mailto:g@xxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: 26 December 2005 20:33
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] New Sonos Player
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ah good - I can discuss it now :-)
> > > >
> > > > G.
> > > >
> > > > Gareth Cook
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> > > >
> > > > ----- Forwarded by Gareth Cook/UK/IBM on 26/12/2005
20:28 -----
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