RE: Re: DIN Enclosure for CBus modules

["Dean Barrett" <dean@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Martin

Building control will only allow Part p registered firms to install test
and
inspect. - 2mill liability, regular inspections, qualifications etc etc...

Only their own people (dont know who this will be) will be allowed to test
and inspect only.



Dean.

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From: Martin Wonders [mailto:martin.wonders@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 April 2005 21:19
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: DIN Enclosure for CBus modules


No Neil, you are correct,

Part P has been introduced to bring the majority of electrical works under
building control. This means that, like any other major building work, you
need to notify building control and on completion they will inspect and
test
(at a cost of course). Building control will of course allow a
"competent
person" to install, inspect and test.

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Fuller [mailto:neil@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 April 2005 20:35
To: ukha_d
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: DIN Enclosure for CBus modules


Dean

As we are past 1st January '05 - shouldn't you be getting a decent
> electrician to do it all anyway ?
>
> You should have Part P compliance, and not be breaking the law. An
> electrician could only certify his own work anyway.

My understanding is that you can do your own work. Part P requires the
testing and completion certificate to be issued by a "competent"
or
registered person, thus ensuring that the installation is compliant.

Or have I misunderstood?

Cheers

Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Barrett" <dean@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: DIN Enclosure for CBus modules


>
> As we are past 1st January '05 - shouldnt you be getting a decent
> electrician to do it all anyway ?
>
> You should have Part P compliance, and not be breaking the law. An
> electrician could only certify his own work anyway.
>
> A suitable enclosure will have neutral and earth bars fitted to which
you
> can bring everything together - if you feed with a 20a remember its
got to
> be bigger than 1mm !!
>
> With your installed feed you will supply the control side of the
dimmer
> and
> then loop across to the dimmer side. All neutrals and earths from
outgoing
> sides will go straight to blocks.
>
> Depending how many circuits you've got, you may find it easier to get
a
> coil
> of 1.5mm Brown 6181Y (single cable) and use this to go from each
Dimmer
> way
> 1a MCB, and then the other side of the MCB will have your T&E
coming back
> from the lights with neutrals and earths going straight to blocks.
>
>
>
>
> Dean.
>
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> From: Gareth Cook [mailto:g@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10 April 2005 16:08
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] Re: DIN Enclosure for CBus modules
>
>
> I'm no electrical expert - so if the consensus is for MCB's on the
load
> side, i'll do it !
>
> My only problem is no experience with MCB's/Consumer units - so if I
do
> get a 2nd enclosure for the CBUS stuff, it's the dos and don'ts for
> getting the wiring right.
>
> I have 2x8 Channel Dimmers and 1x12 Channel Relay. So I'm assuming my
plan
> is :
>
> 1. Install a 20Amp MCB in the main consumer unit (B type and 6KA
rating if
> possible ?)
> 2. Earth and Neutral to enclosure. This is the bit I'm not sure on -
how
> to extend these from the consumer unit correctly. I need some sort of
> "block" for each one ?
> 3. Install MCB's for the LOAD side. So, I need 1Amp units ?
>
> OR - I find a decent electrician !
>
> G.
>
> Gareth Cook
> SWG EMEA North Account Manager
> IBM SWG - BTE Office - Lotus Park, Staines, TW18 3AG
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> ----- Forwarded by Gareth Cook/UK/IBM on 10/04/2005 15:56 -----
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>> Dont see any pics of the cbus din units ???
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> Mine are all protected by MCBs.  Have a look at Mark's Node 0 feature,
> or at www.nicklocke.co.uk/Auto.
>
> Yet another spin on bulbs etc..... the fact tha the dimmers always do
> a soft start seems to have increased the life of the bulbs in a major
> way!  Been in the house since August and, so far, have not replaced a
> single bulb.....
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> I did have a slightly different problem in that the swicth on surge of
> the external security lights almost always tripped an MCB.  Following
> valuable advice on here, those channels now only switch a contactor,
> with the contactor doing the dirty work.
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