RE: Running multiple browsers (iPaq) for whole house audio control

["Paul Gale" <groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gareth,

Telcanto on the PPC is very good - I've been running it since the early
bet=
a and it's very impressive (especially with the large collection you
have).=
Rock solid and fast too.

I have a 6 source source, 6 zone amp (Kustom) - you've probably seen the
pi=
cs before I think? Not cheap but the cheapest I could find a couple of
year=
s ago(=A31500 or so from the US). Works extremely well.

I posted a few times re the multi zone PC sound card drivers:

http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/

Work well on my W2K server (that runs all the HA stuff). Did recently
upgra=
de to 2003 server but haven't got the driver to work yet - I guess you're
n=
ot running server though.

An excellent alternative to multiple sound cards - and, yes you can run
mul=
tiple cards with no problems as well - as long as the software you run
allo=
ws selection of the card (the kx drivers show up as separate cards). I
thin=
k you actually get 4 x stereo pairs with most new sound cards like the
Audi=
gy etc (cheap now too).

I set this up with having multiple zones running multiple sources in mind
-=
in reality we have never needed 2 or more MP3 zones - but that all depends=
on how many in the house and their listening habits I guess.

Paul.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gareth Cook [mailto:g@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 15 November 2004 20:10
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Running multiple browsers (iPaq) for whole house
audio
> control
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> Following on from the multi screen thread - here's an alternative that
I
> want. Whole house audio using a browser (ie WiFi iPaq), with the
> amplification done at Node 0. XLobby looks nice, but a total dog on an
> iPaq - and it's overkill. Whats wrong with a basic browser - less to
go
> wrong at the "client" end.
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> The big problem I have is the "server" end - what kit can
dish out
> multiple zone audio (a PC is fine for this, despite my reservations
about
> using PC's for any home control). So what I would like is :
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> Browser clients (I have cheap WiFi iPaqs in mind)
> Possible PC based system
> Multi Zone audio outputs.
> Amplification done at Node 0.
> Distributed ceilings mounted speakers in each room (I have identified
8
> zones so far). Cabling back to Node 0 (prob T&E cable!)
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> I heard of the 3rd party driver that gets 3 x stereo outputs from a
> Creative Live card - not sure if you can have multiple cards in one pc
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o
> - but that would be a cheap way of doing it.  I've also not seen any
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p
> amps that have many zone outputs. I'm not after hi fidelity here - i
just
> want convenience. But mebe the sound card option would be enough
> amplification ?
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> That's basically it beyond the current wiring for CBus and Comfort. Am
i
> asking too much ?
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> G.
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> ----- Forwarded by Gareth Cook/UK/IBM on 15/11/2004 19:58 -----
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> "keyvan2r" <keyvan@xxxxxxx>
> Today 19:48
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> Subject:
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> [ukha_d] Re: Running multiple touchscreens from one PC
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> Category:
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> Try this one:
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> http://www.caseserve.com/cinemar/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3D2428
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> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Paul Gale" <groups@s...>
wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > Which threads were you thinking of? There are loads of posts on
> there.
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christopher Purves [mailto:CHRIS_PURVES@M...]
> > > Sent: 15 November 2004 19:02
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Running multiple touchscreens from one
PC
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > There is a huge thread on the cinemar forum about doing
exactly
> this. They
> > > use multi-head graphics - the matrox supports up to 9
> touchscreens on 1 pc
> > > with independent display and so does Mainlobby to boot -
> solution in a
> > > box. Given that you are only likely to be using 1 or 2 of
the
> screens at
> > > any one time a reasonably spec'd server will handle this
nicely.
> There is
> > > about 10 pages of discussion on the forum describing the
> approaches to
> > > doing it. I have just purchased some of the kit to do
exactly
> that.
> > > Terminal services is a nasty way of doing it IMHO.
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: John Andrews<mailto:groups@j...>
> > >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > >   Sent: 15 November 2004 18:46
> > >   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Running multiple touchscreens from
one PC
> > >
> > >
> > >   Paul
> > >
> > >   I'm doing just that (USB to VGA), do a search for see2 in
> google.
> > >
> > >   I imported one from provantage and if someone was doing a
bulk
> buy,
> > > would
> > >   probably buy another.
> > >
> > >
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: "Paul Gordon"
> > > <paul@p...<mailto:paul@p...>>
> > >   To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>>
> > >   Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 4:07 PM
> > >   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Running multiple touchscreens from
one PC
> > >
> > >
> > >   >
> > >   > I do remember reading earlier in the year that it is
> possible with a
> > > reg
> > >   > hack to increase the number of remote desktop
sessions
> available in
> > >   > Windows XP. I recall reading that one poster claimed
to have
> 5 RDP
> > >   > sessions running concurrently with no problems...
That would
> probably
> > > be
> > >   > a viable option, but one would of course have to have
a PC
> as well as
> > >   > the screen in the remote locations....
> > >   >
> > >   > Another thought has occurred to me.... Aren't there
USB-VGA
> adapters
> > >   > available? - I'm sure I've seen these advertised in
the
> past... (could
> > >   > be thinking of something else though)...
> > >   >
> > >   > Paul G.
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > > -----Original Message-----
> > >   > > From: Gareth Cook [mailto:g@xxxxxxx]
> > >   > > Sent: 15 November 2004 16:04
> > >   > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > >   > > Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] Running multiple
touchscreens from
> one PC
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Similar to what I want. I would like whole house
audio
> control (via
> > >   > > browser) with all the amplification and
switching done in
> N0.
> > > Speakers
> > >   > in
> > >   > > each room go back to N0.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Or the touchscreen (7" etc) as you state.
Not seen
> anything suitable
> > >   > so
> > >   > > far.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > G.
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > > ----- Forwarded by Gareth Cook/UK/IBM on
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> > >   > > "Paul Gale" <groups@s...>
> > >   > > Today 15:50
> > >   > >
> > >   > > .
> > >   > > Subject:
> > >   > > .
> > >   > > [ukha_d] Running multiple touchscreens from one
PC
> > >   > > .
> > >   > > Category:
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Just mulling over the ways to get touch screens
in a
> number of rooms
> > >   > cost
> > >   > > effectively. Is anyone running two or more touch
screens
> (of the
> > > type
> > >   > you
> > >   > > fit in a car etc) from a single PC with multiple
> interfaces?
> > >   > >
> > >   > > I?d probably want to run something like
MainLobby or my
> own custom
> > >   > > application (designed in Director) on each and
connecting
> to
> > >   > > ACE/Homevision/Comfort at the back end.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > I guess there are a few options like:
> > >   > >
> > >   > > *                Terminal services
> > >   > > *                Multiple dual head graphics
cards in the
> PC
> > >   > > *                Multi session software (don?t
know what
> this is
> > >   > called
> > >   > > but I?ve seen something before ? allows several
instances
> of Windows
> > >   > to
> > >   > > run from one PC)
> > >   > >
> > >   > > I guess the multi graphic card option is easy to
setup but
> may be a
> > >   > bit
> > >   > > flakey to get the right app running on the right
screen?
> > >   > >
> > >   > > With the terminal services option ? what?s the
minimum
> extra
> > > hardware
> > >   > I
> > >   > > would need at each screen?
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Anyone got any other ideas?
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Paul.
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