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Re: X10 DIN module wiring ?



Hi Marcus,

Transformers and dimming, you're right, some of the el cheapo style=20
transformers don't like dimming, make sure to check the specs.
As a rule of thumb, if it's a standard wire & coil transformer - it=20
should be dimmable, if it's an electronic one - it should be=20
specified on the unit. Also make sure you have a minimum load on=20
every ld11 circuit to avoid erratic behaviour - I think it's about=20
60watts.

As far as wiring goes, all you need is a 230v live on the ad10/ld11=20
input to switch it on, you could hop the live feed from 1 to the=20
next, just make sure it's according to building regs and use ample=20
wire diameter. Same goes for the neutral. Personally I would stay=20
clear of brass connectors for anything else but grounding.
You could put a circuit breaker as an add on, just make sure it's=20
rated lower than the one driving the ring - or it'll never blow.
I do have some drawing I could mail you if wanted - don't have a=20
digicam yet so no pics.

rgds Rob.

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Marcus Warrington"
<marcusw@m...>=20
wrote:
> We are just having our attics skimmed and new ceilings put in etc,=20
so I took the opportunity to rip out the old wiring and have run a=20
single T&E from a small landing cupboard to each lighting point( 6
in=20
total)  and a single switch wire from each switch (3 in total) to the=20
same cupboard. Actually most switch plates have 2 or 3 switch wires=20
because each attic has more than one light.
>=20
> At the moment this tangle of wires are just connected together (via=20
chocolate block connectors) to form a normal circuit. I am now about=20
to stick a consumer box in the cupboard and then rewire using LD11's=20
and/or AD10's
>=20
> BTW not many places seem to sell empty consumer boxes (i.e. without=20
the circuit breaker etc), I got a nice MK 12 unit empty consumer unit=20
>from
>=20=20
> So now the questions...
>=20
> I am intending using some low voltage lights in each attic.., twin=20
wires spanning across room with lamps suspended in-between. Am I=20
better using AD10s to control these or can the LD11's dim low voltage=20
lamps ? The lights are from IKEA if that helps.. can't imagine=20
they're top quality transformers as a couple of the lights (3 lamps=20
units) only cost =A38 for the whole kit !
>=20
> How do wire the DIN modules into the consumer box. Looking at=20
a "normal" consumer box it makes use of a common bus bar to link
the=20
Neutrals of the DIN modules together. With the X10 Din modules, do I=20
simply take the incoming power cable and wire the Neutral to the top=20
Neutral bar, the incoming Earth to the top Earth bar, and then buy=20
another brass connector block to connect the Live feed to... or do I=20
simply connect the Live to the first DIN module and then jumper from=20
each. If I use another brass connector so I have to be concerned=20
about the amount of power i.e. will it get too hot.. how do I secure=20
it into the consumer box.. hot melt glue..epoxy glue ?
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> When wiring the switch to the LD11 I assume I wire one wire to the=20
top of the DIN module and the other to the common Live feed ?
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> I'm also wondering if its worth putting a single isolation breaker=20
module between the incoming power feed and all the DIN modules so I=20
can isolate the attic without turning off the whole circuit (which=20
includes the main downstairs hallway)
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> Has anyone got some piccies showing how they have wired theirs ?
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> I also currently have a strange situation were one ring in the=20
house can not send X10 messages to another ring. i.e. I have an RF=20
receiver on the downstairs ring and any codes I send via the remote=20
do not hit an appliance module on the upstairs ring. At the moment I=20
get around this by having 2 receiver units (one on each ring) but its=20
not an ideal solution. I have read about X10 failing if the rings are=20
on different phases .. does this effect the UK ?
> I don;t think its something on the ring killing the signal (i.e.=20
fridge) because I can actually pass messages around devices on that=20
ring just not from devices transmitting from another ring..
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> Any help or advice appreciated
>=20
> Marcus




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