Re: Airconditioning

["Paul Robinson" <ukcueman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

May being last month, but that I didn't have any evidence that it had
actually gone on
sale yet :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Harris" <phil@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 8:27 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning



May being last month???

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Robinson [mailto:ukcueman@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 09 June 2004 18:53
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>
> I saw a leaflet in B&Q today on airconditioning. Amongst
> other stuff, it said they were going to sell a split unit,
> supposedly from May this year (IIRC).
>
> I don't have any more details.
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <jasonh@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>
>
> Paul,
>
> I think youll find this will apply to any split unit,
> however, they will sell you one for
> self install, but you have to be aware that the warranty will
> nto be valid if anything
> goes wrong.
>
> Jason
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Paul Smith
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:08 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>
>
>   Hi Jason,
>
>
>         Been there, but the 3 internal and a single outside
> unit has to be
>   installed by a profession.
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Paul
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jason [mailto:jasonh@xxxxxxx]
>   Sent: 09 June 2004 17:06
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jason
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:06 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>
>
>   Try the following site for self install split units
>
>   http://www.uk-airconditioning.co.uk
>
>   Includes prices and delivery
>
>   Jason
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Paul Smith
>     To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>     Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:47 PM
>     Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>
>
>     Paul,
>
>           Could you post some pictures, or put them in the
> gallery, of both
>     the inside and outside units.
>
>     Thanks
>
>
>     Paul
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Paul Gale [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]
>     Sent: 07 June 2004 10:43
>     To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>     Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>
>     See a huge number of messages about this on this list last year ;)
>
>     I tried one of the B&Q types - was completely useless and
> INCREDIBLY
>   noisy.
>     I found that it just couldn't deal with the heat (hot
> part of last years
>     summer). Eventually took it back and got a proper split
> unit installed
>     (Sharp Eco Inverter). The new system is FAB - cools the
> room really
>   quickly
>     (no matter how hot outside) and is really quiet even on
> highest fan
>   setting.
>     Also heats if needed and looks very smart on the wall.
>
>     The downside as James mentioned is that they need the
> condenser mounted
>     outside (my pipes run through the kitchen loft, through a
> suspended tube
>     between the kitchen wall and garage, through the garage
> and down to the
>     condenser the other side of the garage - about 30m.)
>
>     Can you tell I like it a lot!? No more thrips (thunder
> flies) crawling all
>     over my screens, face and hair! (we get plagued every year.)
>
>     System cost around £1300 fully fitted, although I have
> seen good DIY
>   systems
>     for under £1k.
>
>     Paul
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: James Hoye [mailto:yahoo@xxxxxxx]
>     Sent: 07 June 2004 11:26
>     To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>     Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>
>     > I have seen the one in B&Q  and I think the 8K BTU one
> is about 179,
>     > however it needs a pipe that goes to the outside, is
> this just for
>     > dehumidified moisture or is there another reason for this
pipe.
>
>     It is likely (for this amount of money) that the pipe is
> a heat exhaust.
>
>     > If water can I just run it into a bowl or something short
term??
>
>     The condensate is usually collected into an internal
> container, and is
>     emptied when the unit indicates that this container is full.
>
>     > Alternatively anybody know of any other sources for air
> conditioners
>     > that don't require external venting?? Preferably in the
> Bristol area or
>     > online
>
>     Hmmm... an air conditioner is essentially a heat pump,
> and moves heat
>   energy
>     from one place to another - so unless you want to heat up
> the adjacent
>   room
>     it has to go somewhere - outside usually.
>
>     The "hang the pipe out of the window" types are
> notoriously inefficient in
>     that they draw air into the room (from adjacent rooms &
> outside) to
>   replace
>     the air that is vented (otherwise you'd end up in a
> vacuum).  This air has
>     the disadvantage of inevitably being warmer than the air
> that has already
>     been cooled in the room.  However, they will drop the
> temperature by
>   several
>     degrees and provide a degree of comfort.
>
>     The best type are split units, where the condensor is
> separate from the
>     evaporator unit (cooling part) [well, it's joined by the
> refrigerant
>   lines,
>     but the units are separate].  You mount the condensor
> outside and the heat
>     energy is carried in the refrigerant return to be
> dissipated outside of
>   the
>     room.  These are much more efficient, and sadly
> expensive.  Homebase(?)
>     flogged off a load of these cheap a year or two ago, and
> many list members
>     snapped them up.
>
>     Whatever type you get, you will need to 'vent' the unit
> to the outside one
>     way or another.
>
>     James