RE: Airconditioning

["Phil Harris" <phil@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

May being last month???

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Robinson [mailto:ukcueman@xxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: 09 June 2004 18:53
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>=20
> I saw a leaflet in B&Q today on airconditioning. Amongst=20
> other stuff, it said they were going to sell a split unit,=20
> supposedly from May this year (IIRC).
>=20
> I don't have any more details.
>=20
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <jasonh@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>=20
>=20
> Paul,
>=20
> I think youll find this will apply to any split unit,=20
> however, they will sell you one for
> self install, but you have to be aware that the warranty will=20
> nto be valid if anything
> goes wrong.
>=20
> Jason
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Paul Smith
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:08 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>=20
>=20
>   Hi Jason,
>=20
>=20
>         Been there, but the 3 internal and a single outside=20
> unit has to be
>   installed by a profession.
>=20
>   Regards,
>=20
>   Paul
>=20
>=20
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jason [mailto:jasonh@xxxxxxx]
>   Sent: 09 June 2004 17:06
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>=20
>=20
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Jason
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:06 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>=20
>=20
>   Try the following site for self install split units
>=20
>   http://www.uk-airconditioning.co.uk
>=20
>   Includes prices and delivery
>=20
>   Jason
>     ----- Original Message -----=20
>     From: Paul Smith
>     To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>     Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:47 PM
>     Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>=20
>=20
>     Paul,
>=20
>           Could you post some pictures, or put them in the=20
> gallery, of both
>     the inside and outside units.
>=20
>     Thanks
>=20
>=20
>     Paul
>=20
>=20
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Paul Gale [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]
>     Sent: 07 June 2004 10:43
>     To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>     Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>=20
>     See a huge number of messages about this on this list last year ;)
>=20
>     I tried one of the B&Q types - was completely useless and=20
> INCREDIBLY
>   noisy.
>     I found that it just couldn't deal with the heat (hot=20
> part of last years
>     summer). Eventually took it back and got a proper split=20
> unit installed
>     (Sharp Eco Inverter). The new system is FAB - cools the=20
> room really
>   quickly
>     (no matter how hot outside) and is really quiet even on=20
> highest fan
>   setting.
>     Also heats if needed and looks very smart on the wall.
>=20
>     The downside as James mentioned is that they need the=20
> condenser mounted
>     outside (my pipes run through the kitchen loft, through a=20
> suspended tube
>     between the kitchen wall and garage, through the garage=20
> and down to the
>     condenser the other side of the garage - about 30m.)
>=20
>     Can you tell I like it a lot!? No more thrips (thunder=20
> flies) crawling all
>     over my screens, face and hair! (we get plagued every year.)
>=20
>     System cost around =A31300 fully fitted, although I have=20
> seen good DIY
>   systems
>     for under =A31k.
>=20
>     Paul
>=20
>=20
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: James Hoye [mailto:yahoo@xxxxxxx]
>     Sent: 07 June 2004 11:26
>     To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>     Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning
>=20
>     > I have seen the one in B&Q  and I think the 8K BTU one=20
> is about 179,
>     > however it needs a pipe that goes to the outside, is=20
> this just for
>     > dehumidified moisture or is there another reason for this
pipe.
>=20
>     It is likely (for this amount of money) that the pipe is=20
> a heat exhaust.
>=20
>     > If water can I just run it into a bowl or something short
term??
>=20
>     The condensate is usually collected into an internal=20
> container, and is
>     emptied when the unit indicates that this container is full.
>=20
>     > Alternatively anybody know of any other sources for air=20
> conditioners
>     > that don't require external venting?? Preferably in the=20
> Bristol area or
>     > online
>=20
>     Hmmm... an air conditioner is essentially a heat pump,=20
> and moves heat
>   energy
>     from one place to another - so unless you want to heat up=20
> the adjacent
>   room
>     it has to go somewhere - outside usually.
>=20
>     The "hang the pipe out of the window" types are=20
> notoriously inefficient in
>     that they draw air into the room (from adjacent rooms &=20
> outside) to
>   replace
>     the air that is vented (otherwise you'd end up in a=20
> vacuum).  This air has
>     the disadvantage of inevitably being warmer than the air=20
> that has already
>     been cooled in the room.  However, they will drop the=20
> temperature by
>   several
>     degrees and provide a degree of comfort.
>=20
>     The best type are split units, where the condensor is=20
> separate from the
>     evaporator unit (cooling part) [well, it's joined by the=20
> refrigerant
>   lines,
>     but the units are separate].  You mount the condensor=20
> outside and the heat
>     energy is carried in the refrigerant return to be=20
> dissipated outside of
>   the
>     room.  These are much more efficient, and sadly=20
> expensive.  Homebase(?)
>     flogged off a load of these cheap a year or two ago, and=20
> many list members
>     snapped them up.
>=20
>     Whatever type you get, you will need to 'vent' the unit=20
> to the outside one
>     way or another.
>=20
>     James
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>     Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>     Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>           Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>                 ADVERTISEMENT
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20=20=20
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------
>   --
>     Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>       a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
>       http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ukha_d/
>=20
>       b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>       ukha_d-unsubscribe@xxxxxxx
>=20
>       c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!=20
> Terms of Service.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>               ADVERTISEMENT
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20=20=20
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------
>   ----
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>     a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ukha_d/
>=20
>     b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>     ukha_d-unsubscribe@xxxxxxx
>=20
>     c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!=20
> Terms of Service.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>               ADVERTISEMENT
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>     a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ukha_d/
>=20
>     b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>     ukha_d-unsubscribe@xxxxxxx
>=20
>     c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!=20
> Terms of Service.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20
> --------------------~-->=20
> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70
> http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/IBOolB/TM
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ------~->=20
>=20
>=20
>=20=20
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20=20
>=20
>=20