RE: RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip Telephony

["Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>]

How to obtain SJPhone? Is there shareware version or similar?
Retail costs $99 and that seems a bit too much.
Cheers,
Nik

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan [mailto:dtoma@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 14 March 2003 16:01
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip Telephony


Andy,

> The only explaination for the quatity that I can come up with is that
G.711 is
> poor quality anyway so more noticable

G.711 is an uncompressed codec, so this is the best quality available.

> . I'll be experimenting in the near future, but
> please remember I am NOT an expert in this, I'm learning lots each
day...

Mee too.... I am a ONE FULL WEEK expert ( :-)) ). I have discovered FWD
>from
the original mail on this list about a week ago (more precise your mail
>from
Mars 7th) and now I am very attracted by Internet Telephony and
especially
SIP.
My chance was to get for some time a couple of good Cisco Phones and I
am
impress with the quality of the conversation.
In between I have done some teste with Cisco 7960, Cisco 7940, SJPhone,
Windows Messenger and iPaq version of SJPhone.
Who wants more details, I kindly ask him to send me a mail directly,
eventually to make some tests.

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: "UKHA" <ukha@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip Telephony


> Hi Dan,
>
> I haven't actually used the lower bit rate codecs, I am blessed with
broadband.
>
> The only explaination for the quatity that I can come up with is that
G.711 is
> poor quality anyway so more noticable. that's not a real explaination
i
know
> but it's all I can think of right now.. I'll be experimenting in the
near
future, but
> please remember I am NOT an expert in this, I'm learning lots each
day...
>
> Andy
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 14/03/2003 at 17:26 Dan wrote:
>
> >Andy,
> >
> >From where did youi get lower bitrate codecs for SJPhone?
> >I have tried to ask for G.729 codec from SJ Labs, but when trying
to
> >download, I get a page told me that I will receive an aknowledge
from
them
> >after verification.
> >... but nothing for 3 days...
> >
> >Dan
> >P.S. I have done some test between two Cisco 7960 IP phones using
several
> >broadband lines (wireless, cable) and the three available codecs
(G.711
> >a-law, G.711 u-law and G.729) and the result was a little bit
strange.
When
> >the line was very loaded and the quality of the link not so good,
G.711
> >conduct to far bigger quality than G.729, even the bitsate is
64kbps
for
> >G.711 and only 8kbps for G.729.
> >Do you have an explanation for that?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "UKHA" <ukha@xxxxxxx>
> >To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:21 PM
> >Subject: RE: [ukha_d] RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip Telephony
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Your brother would need to  use the lite service with lower
bit
rate
> >> codecs.
> >>
> >> I have done some tests with Graham Howe and 'out of the box'
the
> >> quality is poor due to the bandwidth required.
> >>
> >> This is basically why I posted the original message, it
appears
that
FWD
> >are
> >> working to accomodate ISDN and dialup (56k) users
> >>
> >> Have a look at
> >>
> >> http://lite.fwdnet.net
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14/03/2003 at 12:38 Nikola Kasic wrote:
> >>
> >> >My brother doesn't have broadband, but ISDN.
> >> >Can I talk to him, if he uses software instead of IP
phone?
> >> >I will probably use software too, because IP phones are
very
expensive.
> >> >If that works, I'll jump into this train.
> >> >Nik
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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