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Re: RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip Telephony



You can download the evaluation version from the SJ Labs web site for free.
I don't know the limitations of the evaluation version. It seems that it is
fully functional.
It includes both types of the G.711 codec.
http://www.sjlabs.com/products/SJphone%201.10%20build%20165.exe

Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip Telephony


> How to obtain SJPhone? Is there shareware version or similar?
> Retail costs $99 and that seems a bit too much.
> Cheers,
> Nik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan [mailto:dtoma@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 14 March 2003 16:01
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip Telephony
>
>
> Andy,
>
> > The only explaination for the quatity that I can come up with is
that
> G.711 is
> > poor quality anyway so more noticable
>
> G.711 is an uncompressed codec, so this is the best quality available.
>
> > . I'll be experimenting in the near future, but
> > please remember I am NOT an expert in this, I'm learning lots
each
> day...
>
> Mee too.... I am a ONE FULL WEEK expert ( :-)) ). I have discovered
FWD
> from
> the original mail on this list about a week ago (more precise your
mail
> from
> Mars 7th) and now I am very attracted by Internet Telephony and
> especially
> SIP.
> My chance was to get for some time a couple of good Cisco Phones and I
> am
> impress with the quality of the conversation.
> In between I have done some teste with Cisco 7960, Cisco 7940,
SJPhone,
> Windows Messenger and iPaq version of SJPhone.
> Who wants more details, I kindly ask him to send me a mail directly,
> eventually to make some tests.
>
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "UKHA" <ukha@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip Telephony
>
>
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > I haven't actually used the lower bit rate codecs, I am blessed
with
> broadband.
> >
> > The only explaination for the quatity that I can come up with is
that
> G.711 is
> > poor quality anyway so more noticable. that's not a real
explaination
> i
> know
> > but it's all I can think of right now.. I'll be experimenting in
the
> near
> future, but
> > please remember I am NOT an expert in this, I'm learning lots
each
> day...
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> >
> > On 14/03/2003 at 17:26 Dan wrote:
> >
> > >Andy,
> > >
> > >From where did youi get lower bitrate codecs for SJPhone?
> > >I have tried to ask for G.729 codec from SJ Labs, but when
trying to
> > >download, I get a page told me that I will receive an
aknowledge from
> them
> > >after verification.
> > >... but nothing for 3 days...
> > >
> > >Dan
> > >P.S. I have done some test between two Cisco 7960 IP phones
using
> several
> > >broadband lines (wireless, cable) and the three available
codecs
> (G.711
> > >a-law, G.711 u-law and G.729) and the result was a little bit
> strange.
> When
> > >the line was very loaded and the quality of the link not so
good,
> G.711
> > >conduct to far bigger quality than G.729, even the bitsate is
64kbps
> for
> > >G.711 and only 8kbps for G.729.
> > >Do you have an explanation for that?
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "UKHA" <ukha@xxxxxxx>
> > >To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:21 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [ukha_d] RE: Good news for Non BB users, Ip
Telephony
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Your brother would need to  use the lite service with
lower bit
> rate
> > >> codecs.
> > >>
> > >> I have done some tests with Graham Howe and 'out of the
box' the
> > >> quality is poor due to the bandwidth required.
> > >>
> > >> This is basically why I posted the original message, it
appears
> that
> FWD
> > >are
> > >> working to accomodate ISDN and dialup (56k) users
> > >>
> > >> Have a look at
> > >>
> > >> http://lite.fwdnet.net
> > >>
> > >> Andy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 14/03/2003 at 12:38 Nikola Kasic wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >My brother doesn't have broadband, but ISDN.
> > >> >Can I talk to him, if he uses software instead of IP
phone?
> > >> >I will probably use software too, because IP phones
are very
> expensive.
> > >> >If that works, I'll jump into this train.
> > >> >Nik
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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