Re: Clipsal Logic Programming - was FirM

["Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Kevin

>However, the use of logic functions in
>output units is discouraged and is planned to be >removed in future
products"

Mine works ok.....???

>At the UKHA meeting the Clipsal guy talked about C->Bus 3 - later
this year

I have heard they are bringing out a lot of new devices...ahvnt heard what
they are ;-((

It would be the software  i would imagine.........


Frank



----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Hawkins
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:18 PM
Subject: Clipsal Logic Programming - was [ukha_d] FirM


I think this logic operation mainly (only ?) refers to a feature in the
dimmers - I haven't used it. In my setup I use xAP of course for all logic,
timing, sequencing etc .



Quoting Clipsal.

"It is not permitted for a single channel to have multiple
associated Group Addresses (because this allows conflicts to develop very
easily). Some Clipsal Lighting output units include special group addresses
which are allocated to logic functions instead of channels. These permit
complex conditions to be set up. However, the use of logic functions in
output units is discouraged and is planned to be removed in future
products"

Now I don't know whether this means that future output hardware will not
have this functionality or that it will be removed from the programming
software meaning you will lose it in existing units. It would seem there is
a much better way of doing this anyway as the logic functions are as you
say
limited.

At the UKHA meeting the Clipsal guy talked about C-Bus 3 - later this year
- I am not convinced he meant this - and I think he was referring to the V3
release of the programming software - currently at v2.6 or above. He said
that all recently shipped hardware already has support inbuilt for V3 and
would work transparently. I look forward to seeing what new bits are in
there.

Kevin



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 03 June 2003 08:12
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] FirM



Hi Kevin / Dean
I was referring to the Dimmer Logic...as i understand it
(not having done the C_Bus course) you can only assign a group once (to a
key input) ..I needed to have some of my lights controlled by key inputs as
well as pir,s via aux inputs so i have logically ored both inputs in the
Dimmer logic programming..........Have a look at the link...

http://www.users.bigpond.com/armagh/page46.html

HTH

Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Hawkins
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:14 AM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] FirM


Frank - tell me a little more about what you mean here - do you mean the
logic functions within the software programming and if so what in
particular
- I haven't used this bit too much



- and I suspect the xAP interface would resolve all that for you wouldn't
it
??



Kevin



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 02 June 2003 08:16

>I'm getting C-Bus and am convinced HomeBrain will serve me better. From
>talking to David Buckley at UKHA2003, it looks like HomeBrain will be
able
>to do this out of the box because it has digital IO ports that can be
used
>for this.

Good Stuff ;-))HomeBrain sounds quite good nice to see a UK HA product...

Although im not sure if you have  been shown the logic programming for
C_Bus...at the moment its a little limited IMHO......









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