Radio HA - was Re: X10 - how ? Doogie

["Gary" <questuk1@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Kevin,

When you convert prices what did it come out to in pounds?

That may give us a rough idea when they come here, ie double...lol


Regards Gary


--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Kevin Hawkins" <lists@u...> wrote:
> 	I have some Z-Wave stuff here in the UK already - I bought
some US
> stuff and have adapted it to UK operation (which is not difficult).
However
> the European licensed RF frequency will be slightly different to
the US one
> so it will not interoperate (I believe).
>
> 	<remembers> -  was at one stage going to write a mini review
for the
> Automated Home -sorry Mark
>
> 	I have a couple of the lamp and appliance type modules and a
remote
> control - I don't have the USB link yet.  It is excellent in some
respects
> but a little badly thought out in others.  The way the remote works
is ok
> for a small number of devices but bad if you have a lot - you have
to scroll
> through a list to the device you want and then select it for
ONOFFDIM. It
> does accurately refelect the success of the action (status) on the
lcd
> remotes screen though.  This 'status' is the result of your action -
you
> cannot check the current status or dim level of a device this way .
You can
> group devices under one 'group' and switch that ON or OFF and again
status
> is presented but if one member of the group fails then you just get
a fail
> message and no indication which unit failed. I think the protocol
is capable
> of achieving some of these things though and perhaps it is only the
remote
> implementation that falls short.
> 	The automatic RF relaying from one unit to another is good -
I can
> cover distances in my property (3' internal stone walls) that I
can't get
> anywhere near with X10 RF. AIUI the ULTI does not relay  although
you can
> buy single hop repeaters. However (again AIUI) the C-Bus RF variant
will
> handle intelligent relaying though. The price of the US Z-Wave
modules I
> feel is excellent and the design of the devices is such that the UK
versions
> should be able to achieve similar pricing - (volume issues though).
>
> 	Kevin
>
>
>
>    > -----Original Message-----
>    > From: Gary
>    > Sent: 05 December 2003 09:50
>    > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>    > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: X10 - how ? Doogie
>    >
>    > Hi Doogie, the message was  for you
>    >
>    >
>    > > Certainly any RF stuff that I'm looking at installing
will be
>    > either Clipsal Ulti, or when it comes out next year, the
>    > Clipsal C- Bus RF Neo range.
>    >
>    > Any ideas on prices as I expect it will be expensive?
>    >
>    > What about Z-Wave, thats coming out next year? is it
>    > cheaper? anyone know? any comments?