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RE: IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
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- Subject: RE: IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
- From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:20:27 +0100
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Does the Cat5 cable plug from the top, or from the side of PCB.
Regarding feedback, I thought that "brain" (PC, Homevision)
analyzes any
signal received from zones and then decides where to transfer it. That
way,
if I use TV remote in Living room, where TV itself is located, it
recognizes
the code as TV command and knows that there is no need for transferring
that
code to other rooms or to living room itself, because TV can receive
command
>from
If you send a TV command from bedroom, it knows that there's no TV there
and
transmitts command in the living room only, because it knows that TV is
there.
Can Dan put some more inteligence in signal, e.g. by putting one or two
extra bits at the end of the original signal as "identifiers".
"Brain" will
then know if it receives such signal that it was sent by FirM so it will
not
transmit it anymore. Such "identifier" bits should not be
recognized by any
of the equipment as commands.
Regards,
Nikola
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 October 2002 11:47
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
Hi Nik
The cat5 socket is the highest component so around
10-15mm....Remember though a cat5 plug goes into it....
IR Feedback
If you use blaster type emitters then when you press the button on
your
remote pointed at the rx unit the response from the pc (ir signal)
will
get
send out of the blaster ir led picked up by the tv or whatever and
also
the
zone rx unit and sent back again to the pc and just goes into an tx
rx
loop...........
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
> Hi Frank,
> Just checked my single gang box.
> Dimensions are 68x68x25mm
> So probably it will fit into double gang one.
> Can you tell me what's the depth of the device?
>
> There's no way for me to bring CAT5 close enough to use stick
on
emitters.
>
> What are feedback problems?
>
> Cheers,
> Nik
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 24 October 2002 12:19
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing
Update
>
>
> Hi Nik
>
I think there would be problems if using ir blaster type
> emitting......i have only tested the system with
stick on
> emitters........Im
> sure there would be feedback problems...Have you
located your cat5
points
> above were your equipment is....if so is there any
way you can get a
thin
> type speaker wire down to the equipment to use for
emitters????
> > And if it is, will it fit into a single gang
box?
> Its been a long time since i seen a UK
plate.....the pcb is around
75mm
x
> 50mm
>
> Frank
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nikola Kasic"
<nikola@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing
Update
>
>
> > Hoooray!
> > Three times...
> > But, of course, nothing is perfect, so to get
SWMBO approval i would
> like
> to
> > put transmitters and receivers high on the
wall in a box behind a
> blanking
> > plate. I would then drill a hole in a plate
for IR LEDs.
> > Is something like that possible?
> > And if it is, will it fit into a single gang
box?
> > And will single CAT5 cable be enough for both
Tx and Rx?
> > Electrician put the cables throug the
strategic points last week,
and
> he's
> > not finished yet. I left enough length curled
and hidden for the
future
> IR
> > solution, but if I can do it the way I plan, I
might order
> > transmitters/receivers and ask electrician to
put boxes in place and
> cables
> > through wall to each box.
> >
> > Dan's idea of controling lights via IR is
interesting.
> > But where transmitters must be placed relative
to IR receiver on
light
> > switch? Can they be on the same wall? That
means that IR signal will
> have
> to
> > bounce off the walls. Is that possible and
will they bounce off any
wall
> and
> > furniture, or just some (e.g. wall
carpets).
> >
> > Cheers
> > Nik
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank Mc Alinden
[mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 22 October 2002 20:40
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM
Interfacing Update
> >
> >
> > Thats correct Nik
>
>
Hopefully when finished (the pc
interface)
> a
> > pc
> > user can have a multizone rx tx
/rx using Automat8it software with
> Dans
> > plugins and my pc interface + FirM
.
> >
> > Frank
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nikola Kasic"
<nikola@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002
1:35 AM
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM
Interfacing Update
> >
> >
> > > Frank, if I understand
properly, with IRM and FirM you can use
PC
> > (Autom8it)
> > > as a brain and control where
the commands will be transmitted.
That
> way
> > IR
> > > commands will not be sent
through the whole house, but to the
> > pre-programed
> > > zones only. Also, we don't
need a HV for controling FirM, but
can
> use
> > PC.
> > > Can you tell me am I
right?
> > > Cheers,
> > > Nik
> > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > From: Frank Mc
Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 22 October
2002 12:38
> > > To:
ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [ukha_d]
IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
> > >
> > >
> > > HI all
> >
> Just a
quick update on were Dan and I are at with Dans
IRM
> and
> > my
> > > FirM....
> > >
> > > Well at the
moment Using Dans software the pc can send a tx
zone
> > command
> > > to the FirM Interface and
select a tx zone on firm.......Also
when
> an
> ir
> > > signal is received by Dans
software it asks the interface for
zone
> id
> > and
> > > displays it on the
pc........At this point im trying to get my
ir
> sytem
> > > (firm + hv) to respond to a
txed ir signal with little luck not
sure
> if
> > its
> > > a hardware problem????
> > >
> > > More Soon
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
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