Re: IRM +FirM Interfacing Update

["Frank Mc Alinden" <armagh@xxxxxxx>]

The current cables plug in the side ..........

> Regarding feedback, I thought that "brain" (PC, Homevision)
analyzes any
> signal received from zones and then decides where to transfer it.
That
way,
> if I use TV remote in Living room, where TV itself is located, it
recognizes
> the code as TV command and knows that there is no need for
transferring
that
> code to other rooms or to living room itself, because TV can
receive
command
> from remote controller

It does analyze the signal and responds by sending a ir signal which
the
receiver picks up and sents back again to hv or pc.......Its like when
you
bring a guitar close to the speakers of an amp you get feedback and 
the
squealing noise is the result..........The only thing i can think of is
if
the RX Mode is disabled before and 500msec after a transmission has
occurred
that might work... will ask Dan.......

Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update


> Does the Cat5 cable plug from the top, or from the side of PCB.
>
> Regarding feedback, I thought that "brain" (PC, Homevision)
analyzes any
> signal received from zones and then decides where to transfer it.
That
way,
> if I use TV remote in Living room, where TV itself is located, it
recognizes
> the code as TV command and knows that there is no need for
transferring
that
> code to other rooms or to living room itself, because TV can
receive
command
> from remote controller directly.
> If you send a TV command from bedroom, it knows that there's no TV
there
and
> transmitts command in the living room only, because it knows that TV
is
> there.
> Can Dan put some more inteligence in signal, e.g. by putting one or
two
> extra bits at the end of the original signal as
"identifiers". "Brain"
will
> then know if it receives such signal that it was sent by FirM so it
will
not
> transmit it anymore. Such "identifier" bits should not be
recognized by
any
> of the equipment as commands.
> Regards,
> Nikola
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
>   Sent: 25 October 2002 11:47
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
>
>
>   Hi Nik
>              
The cat5 socket is the highest component so around
>   10-15mm....Remember though a cat5 plug goes into
it....
>
>   IR Feedback
>   If you use blaster type emitters then when you press the
button on your
>   remote pointed at the rx unit the response from the pc (ir
signal) will
> get
>   send out of the blaster ir led picked up by the tv or
whatever and also
> the
>   zone rx unit and sent back again to the pc and just goes
into an tx rx
>   loop...........
>
>   Frank
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
>   To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>   Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:04 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
>
>
>   > Hi Frank,
>   > Just checked my single gang box.
>   > Dimensions are 68x68x25mm
>   > So probably it will fit into double gang one.
>   > Can you tell me what's the depth of the device?
>   >
>   > There's no way for me to bring CAT5 close enough to
use stick on
> emitters.
>   >
>   > What are feedback problems?
>   >
>   > Cheers,
>   > Nik
>   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   From: Frank Mc Alinden
[mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
>   >   Sent: 24 October 2002 12:19
>   >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   >   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM
Interfacing Update
>   >
>   >
>   >   Hi Nik
>  
>              
I think there would be problems if using ir blaster type
>   >   emitting......i have only tested the
system with stick on
>   > emitters........Im
>   >   sure there would be feedback
problems...Have you located your cat5
>   points
>   >   above were your equipment is....if so is
there any way you can get a
>   thin
>   >   type speaker wire down to the equipment
to use for emitters????
>   >   > And if it is, will it fit into a
single gang box?
>   >   Its been a long time since i seen a UK
plate.....the pcb is around
> 75mm
>   x
>   >   50mm
>   >
>   >   Frank
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: "Nikola Kasic"
<nikola@xxxxxxx>
>   >   To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>   >   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:13
PM
>   >   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM
Interfacing Update
>   >
>   >
>   >   > Hoooray!
>   >   > Three times...
>   >   > But, of course, nothing is perfect,
so to get SWMBO approval i
would
>   > like
>   >   to
>   >   > put transmitters and receivers high
on the wall in a box behind a
>   > blanking
>   >   > plate. I would then drill a hole in
a plate for IR LEDs.
>   >   > Is something like that possible?
>   >   > And if it is, will it fit into a
single gang box?
>   >   > And will single CAT5 cable be enough
for both Tx and Rx?
>   >   > Electrician put the cables throug
the strategic points last week,
> and
>   > he's
>   >   > not finished yet. I left enough
length curled and hidden for the
>   future
>   > IR
>   >   > solution, but if I can do it the way
I plan, I might order
>   >   > transmitters/receivers and ask
electrician to put boxes in place
and
>   >   cables
>   >   > through wall to each box.
>   >   >
>   >   > Dan's idea of controling lights via
IR is interesting.
>   >   > But where transmitters must be
placed relative to IR receiver on
> light
>   >   > switch? Can they be on the same
wall? That means that IR signal
will
>   > have
>   >   to
>   >   > bounce off the walls. Is that
possible and will they bounce off
any
>   wall
>   >   and
>   >   > furniture, or just some (e.g. wall
carpets).
>   >   >
>   >   > Cheers
>   >   > Nik
>   >   >   -----Original
Message-----
>   >   >   From: Frank Mc Alinden
[mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
>   >   >   Sent: 22 October 2002
20:40
>   >   >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   >   >   Subject: Re: [ukha_d]
IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   Thats correct Nik
>   >  
>                              
Hopefully when finished (the pc
>   interface)
>   >   a
>   >   > pc
>   >   >   user can have a
multizone rx tx /rx using Automat8it software
with
>   > Dans
>   >   >   plugins and my pc
interface + FirM .
>   >   >
>   >   >   Frank
>   >   >   ----- Original Message
-----
>   >   >   From: "Nikola
Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
>   >   >   To:
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, October
23, 2002 1:35 AM
>   >   >   Subject: RE: [ukha_d]
IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   > Frank, if I
understand properly, with IRM and FirM you can use
> PC
>   >   >   (Autom8it)
>   >   >   > as a brain and
control where the commands will be transmitted.
>   That
>   >   way
>   >   > IR
>   >   >   > commands will not
be sent through the whole house, but to the
>   >   >   pre-programed
>   >   >   > zones only. Also,
we don't need a HV for controling FirM, but
> can
>   > use
>   >   > PC.
>   >   >   > Can you tell me am
I right?
>   >   >   > Cheers,
>   >   >   > Nik
>   >   >   >  
-----Original Message-----
>   >   >   >   From:
Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
>   >   >   >   Sent:
22 October 2002 12:38
>   >   >   >   To:
ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   >   >   >  
Subject: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   HI
all
>   >   >  
>           Just a
quick update on were Dan and I are at with
Dans
>   IRM
>   >   and
>   >   >   my
>   >   >   > FirM....
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   Well at
the moment Using Dans software the pc can send a tx
> zone
>   >   > command
>   >   >   > to the FirM
Interface and select a tx zone on firm.......Also
> when
>   > an
>   >   ir
>   >   >   > signal is received
by Dans software it asks the interface for
> zone
>   > id
>   >   > and
>   >   >   > displays it on the
pc........At this point im trying to get my
> ir
>   >   sytem
>   >   >   > (firm + hv) to
respond to a txed ir signal with little luck
not
>   sure
>   >   if
>   >   >   its
>   >   >   > a hardware
problem????
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   More
Soon
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >  
Frank
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >  
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