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RE: "Mid-Band" - Hope for rural Home Automators!


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  • Subject: RE: "Mid-Band" - Hope for rural Home Automators!
  • From: "Ian Lowe" <ian@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:51:56 -0000
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Smith [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 20 November 2002 18:14
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ukha_d] "Mid-Band" - Hope for rural Home Automators!


>The "always on" part is intriguing rather than exciting.

tbh, it sounds like exactly what we have come to expect from BT. nothing.

>It sounds very much like using the B channel as always on to trigger D
channels when required.

It's the other way round, but I know what you mean. and this service is
about as new as....

1988

...when planet internet offered an ISDN dial-back service where if your
static IP received traffic, the ISP would lift the line and dial your router
at 128K. that service is just as much "always on" as this one. the only
difference is billing, and I'm afraid I can't get excited about 14 years of
"progress", and the only improvement is the ability to charge calls at zero
rate.

>I'm a HH user and would love always-on. I can get a bigger pipe than I
could possib;y want at work - and
>frankly downloading 600mb movie rip-offs doesn't appeal.

Thats nice for you. My company has BH and that's all we can afford. 512K
would cost us ?7,400 to install, and ?1037 a month. Not quite "free install
and ?25 a month", huh?

>If you want to rant ;-) have a go at a Government which treated the telcos
as a cash cow (3G Licences)
>when times were good, mouths off a lot about BB, but does zippo to help or
invest.

Oh, I agree. HMG is solidly to blame here. I know that.

>The only way in the current economic climate that ADSL roll-out will be
extended significantly is if in
>the areas where is is there - it becomes profitable and quickly.

Sorry, but I disagree completely. This is a question of national
infrastructure, not a simple business case. The Government has tried to
slopey shoulder it's responsibility, and stand cheering at the side lines as
we slide into a frankly embarrassing position in the developed world.

A leading centre for e-business?? world leader in e-commerce? hardly, when
something like 48% of UK business is unable to get broadband access at
anything less than 1K a month.

>Hence the necessary evil that is those adverts should be welcomed as the
drive that is needed to make
>ADSL profitable and worth rolling out to evryone.

And what is the point of taking out hundreds of billboard adverts in areas
which are not enabled? National TV and Radio is one thing, but here, BT are
going out of their way to advertise ADSL (which people cannot get) in areas
wth cable. yet, they have no plans whatsoever to roll out to these
exchanges.

>As much as its fun (and easy) to blame "BT", you cant escape hard economic
factors influencing
>investment strategy. They got it very wrong with 3G, and having been bitten
are now cautious....

well Dean, the problem here is this:

BT have been point blank *lying* about the state of their network to
shareholders.

AIU, they claimed back in 1991 that all exchanges were now connected to a
fibre backbone, placing BT in an excellent position for the future, blah,
blah, blah...

*if* that was true, thne enabling an exchange would be as simple as popping
the DSLAM in, and doing some plant works.

however, many exchanges are getting 600 and 700 trigger levels,
because...... "back hauling the data to the core network requires laying of
new cabling and fibre into the exchanges" If those two versions of events
can be reconciled, BT can get a *shred* of respect, otherwise, their profits
in the "good years" were as fictional as those of Enron.

Ian.





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