RE: "Mid-Band" - Hope for rural Home Automators!

["Phillip Harris" <phil@xxxxxxx>]

Hey! Just looks who's sponsoring Celebrity Big Brother!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Lowe [mailto:ian@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 20 November 2002 20:52
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] "Mid-Band" - Hope for rural Home
Automators!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Smith [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 20 November 2002 18:14
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] "Mid-Band" - Hope for rural Home
Automators!
> 
> 
> >The "always on" part is intriguing rather than
exciting.
> 
> tbh, it sounds like exactly what we have come to expect from 
> BT. nothing.
> 
> >It sounds very much like using the B channel as always on to 
> trigger D
> channels when required.
> 
> It's the other way round, but I know what you mean. and this 
> service is about as new as....
> 
> 1988
> 
> ...when planet internet offered an ISDN dial-back service 
> where if your static IP received traffic, the ISP would lift 
> the line and dial your router at 128K. that service is just 
> as much "always on" as this one. the only difference is 
> billing, and I'm afraid I can't get excited about 14 years of 
> "progress", and the only improvement is the ability to
charge 
> calls at zero rate.
> 
> >I'm a HH user and would love always-on. I can get a bigger 
> pipe than I
> could possib;y want at work - and
> >frankly downloading 600mb movie rip-offs doesn't appeal.
> 
> Thats nice for you. My company has BH and that's all we can 
> afford. 512K would cost us ?7,400 to install, and ?1037 a 
> month. Not quite "free install and ?25 a month", huh?
> 
> >If you want to rant ;-) have a go at a Government which treated
the 
> >telcos
> as a cash cow (3G Licences)
> >when times were good, mouths off a lot about BB, but does 
> zippo to help 
> >or
> invest.
> 
> Oh, I agree. HMG is solidly to blame here. I know that.
> 
> >The only way in the current economic climate that ADSL 
> roll-out will be
> extended significantly is if in
> >the areas where is is there - it becomes profitable and
quickly.
> 
> Sorry, but I disagree completely. This is a question of 
> national infrastructure, not a simple business case. The 
> Government has tried to slopey shoulder it's responsibility, 
> and stand cheering at the side lines as we slide into a 
> frankly embarrassing position in the developed world.
> 
> A leading centre for e-business?? world leader in e-commerce? 
> hardly, when something like 48% of UK business is unable to 
> get broadband access at anything less than 1K a month.
> 
> >Hence the necessary evil that is those adverts should be welcomed
as 
> >the
> drive that is needed to make
> >ADSL profitable and worth rolling out to evryone.
> 
> And what is the point of taking out hundreds of billboard 
> adverts in areas which are not enabled? National TV and Radio 
> is one thing, but here, BT are going out of their way to 
> advertise ADSL (which people cannot get) in areas wth cable. 
> yet, they have no plans whatsoever to roll out to these exchanges.
> 
> >As much as its fun (and easy) to blame "BT", you cant
escape hard 
> >economic
> factors influencing
> >investment strategy. They got it very wrong with 3G, and having
been 
> >bitten
> are now cautious....
> 
> well Dean, the problem here is this:
> 
> BT have been point blank *lying* about the state of their 
> network to shareholders.
> 
> AIU, they claimed back in 1991 that all exchanges were now 
> connected to a fibre backbone, placing BT in an excellent 
> position for the future, blah, blah, blah...
> 
> *if* that was true, thne enabling an exchange would be as 
> simple as popping the DSLAM in, and doing some plant works.
> 
> however, many exchanges are getting 600 and 700 trigger 
> levels, because...... "back hauling the data to the core 
> network requires laying of new cabling and fibre into the 
> exchanges" If those two versions of events can be reconciled,
> BT can get a *shred* of respect, otherwise, their profits in 
> the "good years" were as fictional as those of Enron.
> 
> Ian.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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