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Hi Keith,
    Thank you for the reply.  I think, based on what you've said I need different
plugs.  See if I'm correct.  
1: The socket I have, I think came from B&Q.  Opening it up it has six small
screws where the cores can be wrapped around, much like many hifi amps.  But
it does not have the push type slots that cut thru the insulation from either side.
2: The cable appears to be solid single core design.
3: The small plugs have an instruction sheet that say they are suitable for 'D' profile
cable, and not suitable for solid core.

>from poor
contact?  So I need a different style of plug?

regards, robin

keithdoxey wrote:
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HI Robin,

The 4 contacts on the plug will be 2,3,4,5 with 2 being closest to
the tag. Look at www.diyha.co.uk and follow the links to *Telephones*

The BT wiring convention is

2 BLUE/White
3 ORANGE/White
4 WHITE/Orange
5 WHITE/Blue

where the MAIN COLOUR IS CAPS/Trace colour is lower case.

You shouldnt try to crimp a solid cored cable to an IDC plug. The
contacts in the plug are designed to peirce the insulation and push
into the STRANDED conductor. With a solid conductor it will be puched
to one side of the pin or the other and give a poor connection, at
worst, the pin will actually cut through the wire.

Likewise you shouldnt use stranded cable in an IDC socket although it
does usually give quite good results. With a normal Krone type IDC
connection in a socket there are two *blades* which slice through the
insu lation andbite into a solid conductor forming what is known as a
*cold weld* which is an air tight secure connection. With stranded
cable the blades still cut through the insulation but the stranded
conductors tend to shuffle about and flatten out. A connection still
gets made but only by the surface of the conductors touching the
blade of the socket. This is nowhere near as reliable.

Hope that helps

Keith



--- In ukha_d@y..., Robin Edwards <robin@j...> wrote:
    Can somebody help with following please.  I want to run a
phone 
extension from
a socket on ground floor to my study two floors up (in roof). The
route 
is a pain but
over last few months as I've been lifting boards etc I gradually
fed a 
cable thru, but
there are no terminators on it. The cable is what was left after
my 
home highway was
installed. so I think it has 8 cores. (Brown,Orange, Blue and
Green, 
plus 4 white with
coloured tracers).

I have a couple of sockets, but they have numbered terminals 1
thru 6.
    I bought a pack of plugs that crimp on the end with pliers
and 
a 
small metal die, but
this takes 4 cores. With the spring on the left and the copper(?)
contacts visible above
which do I connect to what, assuming I number the connectors in the
plug 
1 thru 4 with
4 closest to the spring on the side?

Thanks for any help in advance, regards, robin


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