Re: Ceiling Lights & Local Control

["psghome2002" <psghome@xxxxxxx>]

The only touble with this is the number of inputs required on=20
Comfort / HomeVision. I'll have a minimum of 45 LD11/AD10's !

--- In ukha_d@y..., "Paul Gordon" <paul_gordon@h...> wrote:
> Is this a "Eureka moment" ?
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> A quick thought occurs to me regarding getting status reporting=20
back to a=20
> controller when fitting LD11's...
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> I've used one of the current sensors that Comfort sell, and I'd=20
thought=20
> about using one of these per controlled light fitting, but thats=20
daftly=20
> expensive as the sensors are about =A312 a pop.
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> But, could you not add a cheap mains transformer (e.g. M**lins=20
part YN12N)on=20
> the cable between the LD11 & the light fitting, in parallel
with=20
the light,=20
> then run the secondary (which can be 3/6/9/12/15V) back to an=20
input on=20
> HV/Comfort whatever? - then whenever the light is on, the=20
transformer is on,=20
> and the input to said controller has the chosen voltage applied to=20
it...
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> Keith, feel free to jump in here and embarass me by telling us all=20
why this=20
> is a very bad idea and couldn't possibly work!!!
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> The M**lins part is =A33.49 for 1-off quantities, with reductions=20
for 10+, but=20
> we all know that they are not the cheapest place in the world, so=20
I'm sure=20
> it ought to be possible to bulk buy suitable transformers for no=20
more that a=20
> couple of quid each. They can be really very small (much smaller=20
than the=20
> LD11 itself), so the additional bulk shouldn't be an issue...
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> Not quite as easy as X10 status reporting, and you *do* obviously=20
have an=20
> additional wire to run between the light and N0, but if you're=20
already doing=20
> that....
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> Just a thought....
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> Paul G.
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> >From: "Kenneth Watt" <kennwatt@b...>
> >Reply-To: ukha_d@y...
> >To: "UKHA_D" <ukha_d@y...>
> >Subject: [ukha_d] Ceiling Lights & Local Control
> >Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:37:56 -0000
> >
> >You know with all this talk of ceiling lights and local control=20
it got
> >me thinking :-)
> >
> >This seems to be a *major* stumbling block for, particularly=20
newcomers,
> >to the X10 gig and the socket rocket and AW10U are just not=20
cutting it
> >at all, so here's a thought for you guys.
> >
> >Why not build a small housing to take an LD11 and fix a ceiling=20
fitting
> >directly to the case. The case could be partially recessed into=20
the
> >Gyproc for the ceiling giving a reasonable finish; the only=20
technical
> >bit is getting the casing so it can be painted to match the
> >surroundings. Then you would end up with a wart on the ceiling
I=20
hear
> >you cry, but then WTF is a socket rocket except a typical X10=20
eyesore?
> >
> >The LD11 is really physically quite compact and if it weren't
for=20
those
> >pesky batons that most sparkies secure fittings too you could=20
almost
> >sink the thing right into the ceiling, totally. I'm sure that=20
there has
> >to something that can be done!
> >
> >You could even whap a hole in the ceiling, install the module=20
then put a
> >decorative rose over (high WAF?), paint and no-one would know the
> >difference. The only problem with that, that I can see anyway, is
> >getting access should the fuse or the module need swapped out,
to=20
be
> >fair on that count though I have had a couple of old LD10's=20
running for
> >over two years and never swapped a fuse and they work perfectly=20
every
> >time.
> >
> >As for wiring, well if you are going to use an LD11 you need=20
momentary
> >contact at the switch anyway so just use the existing switch
wire=20
to the
> >fitting and change the configuration accordingly.
> >
> >Still no status response, but hey, that's an X10 problem not an
> >installation one!
> >
> >This is something I was going to look at in the one room I just=20
cannot
> >get access to the space above the ceiling rose in, but I was=20
thinking on
> >the new tiny A10 lamp module to solve the problem, but at a
cost=20
almost
> >double the cost of an LD11 IIRC.
> >
> >Now how's that for a sticky plaster solution :-)
> >
> >K., @ Work, should be working! ;-)
> >
> >
> >
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