Re: X10/Room Occupancy/SWMBO acceptance

["tefxp" <roaming@xxxxxxx>]

> > Dunno if you intend it that way, but you seem to be coming
across
> > v.angry/agressive in your responses m8!
> 
> Ooh, no sorry.  Not my intention at all.  If I come across
as 
angry, 
> please ignore the angry bits - I'm not, and don't get angry on 
the 'net.  

That's alright then.  Difficult to tell in email sometimes.....

> > I am not about to rewire the house as it has already been
rewired
> > about 18 months ago when X10 was not yet on my radar.
> 
> OK, I see your point, but that's not the same situation for 
everyone.  I 
> suppose our differences here are that I'm looking at this 
generically, and 
> you're looking at this from your set of circumstances.

Indeed I am - because it is _my_ problem :-)
Eveyone else either seems to:
a/ have rewired or is rewriring with a new consumer unit and LD11's
b/ Have a HA compliant SWMBO
c/ Have no SWMBO
d/ Had X10 before SWMBO and thus SWMBO has to accept use of 
pronto/waving hand to indicate still there etc..... 
:-)

Agreed though some of these issues could apply to others.....

> Agreed.  Perhaps you could mount a switch on the wall that
operates 
> wirelessly?  Would save rewiring.

Have only seen those horrible X10 stick on wall wireless switches - 
no way jose!

> > Clearly we have different ideas of what is/is not acceptable or
even
> > desirable in an automated home.....
> 
> I don't think so.  Anything which requires you do something
non-
obvious is 
> a step backwards, IMO.  There'll be nothing of that description
in 
my house.

Indeed - so to me, pressing a pronto 'night time'' button is a non 
obvious thing to expect a non HA compliant person to do, but that 
seems to be what is largely on offer as a solution......

> > Not sure about light coming ON in the morning automatically 
though.
> 
> No, I wasn't sure about that either.  You could have a daily
alarm 
set so 
> the light comes on gradually to wake you up.  Wouldn't work in
summer 
> though :-)

No, and wouldn't work with LM's either.  Thinking about the inline LD
jobbies but would need to find a suitable housing for them....

> > I have been doing it for the last weel whilst SWMBO is away and
it
> > does help me to get up (even if it's damned annoying!) but as
I
> > often get up a lot earlier than SWMBO, it may not be desirable
to
> > turn it on and thus disturb her.
> 
> Probably not.

SWMBO back last night.  Forgot to stop the light coming on in the 
morning & hadn't told her it was going to come on .  5:30 am -
BRIGHT 
LIGHT.  Not impressed :-(

> bit of curtain twitching.  Here at work we have a direct line to
the 
> police which triggers with the alarm.  The alarm is also so loud
that it's 
> disorientating to walk around inside.  I stood outside the door
as 

I've no probs with alarms that talk to police/disorient/stun 
burglars, I just think the "pretend you're in" bit maybe gives a
false sense of security.....


Tony

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