RE: Sparkies

["Mick Furlong" <dorsai@xxxxxxx>]

hold on guys you need to know what is being quoted for here, for example
does this include cat5 termination to faceplates and the faceplates? Ditto
for ct100 speaker cable etc. What termination is provided at the node zero
end?

I assume the work is being done at the construction stage? ...also the
construction method makes a difference to the amount of work involved.

Is certification of the cat 5 cabling included?

It does sound expensive but you also need to take into account the number
of
points installed not just the total length of the cable, even if the
installer is just a bog standard sparkie they don't come cheap. the average
length of the runs is 14.5 M which is pretty short in office building terms
so labour costs will be a higher proportion of the total when compared to
more traditional data cabling installations. In most modern office
buildings
the ducting/raised floors/risers would also be in place making the job
easier.

If he is including supply termination and fixing of 162 single outlet RJ45s
then it might be worth asking for a price for just cable installation.

more info needed to take a proper view :) and despite the above he may
still
be ripping you off!

Cheers
Mick


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Doxey [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 03 September 2001 17:23
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Sparkies
>
>
> Bloody Hell !!!!
>
> I think I ought to buy a Winnebago and start touring the country doing
> installs.
>
> Prices from Rapid Electronics 01206 751166
>
> > 2400m cat5 = £424
> CAT5e	305m box	19-8156	£35 per box	10+ £32.80
> 2400m = 8 boxes = £280
>
>
> > 540m ct100 = £243
> CT100 02-0250  £19.30 per 100  5+ £17.00
> 600m = £102
>
>
> > 500m speaker cable = £360
>
> 79/0.2	01-0142	18.35 per reel 5+ 16.10 so
>  500m = £80.50
>
> > 900m lighting cable = £200
>
> 1.5mm T&E	01-1944  £19.77 per 100m  5+ £ 18.58  10+ £17.72
> 900m = 167.22 or 1000m for £177.20
>
> Keith
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Julian Samphire [mailto:tricky_item@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 03 September 2001 17:07
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Sparkies
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just got a price back from the housing company that is
building my
> > house. I've asked them to put in some cabling for my HA stuff
> before they
> > finish the house. I have just been given a price of £8700 for
this task
> > as I was wondering if you guys could take a look through my list
and see
> > if they are taking the mick (which I think they are by about 5k).
> >
> > This is the info I got from the electrician who quoted the job
> up for the
> > housing company (shame he wont give me the prices too)
> >
> > 2400m cat5 - 162 runs
> > 540m ct010 - 36 runs
> > 900m 1.5 cable (lighting)
> > 500m speaker cable (to roof spaces) 24runs
> > Power is standard for the house so no change here...
> >
> > All this is going to be router to node0 which happens to be in
> the garage
> > on the wall touching the house. The sparkie claims this will take
up to
> > three weeks to complete. Also note that the price _doesnt_
> include any HA
> > stuff, this is just for cabling.
> >
> > I have put a few prices together going on maplin as a guide, but
the
> > electrical company should be able to get cheaper prices anyway:
> >
> > 2400m cat5 = £424
> > 540m ct100 = £243
> > 500m speaker cable = £360
> > 900m lighting cable = £200
> >
> > Total = £1227
> >
> > I know some of you guys have done your own HA wiring, do you
think it
> > would take one guy three weeks at 7 hours a day to do this? and
if so is
> > 6000pounds way too much for 105 hours work, putting the guys wage
to
> > something around 66 pounds an hour!
> >
> > Any info/moral suport apreciated,
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jules - just watching his HA dreams falling apart for his new
home
> >
> >
> >
> >
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