RE: Bit the bullet...

["Phillip Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>]

I completely agree with your dislike of HH from the standpoint of cost and
coming from a house where I had a cablemodem before then I am really
feeling
the pinch however for me the deal was worthwhile.

At the moment we have one phone line and I am tying it up all the time. For
£39.99 (not £45.98) we get the second line (worth - say - £10), I get my
6pm - 8am and weekends internet access (worth £15) and £7 worth of calls
lobbed in, this is in addition to our single line as well.

I considered the "all local calls inclusive" package but I make
few local
calls ... my family are 300 miles away and my partners family are in the
next village and we see then every day. All our friends are further out
than
woul be counted as a local call and so this just wasn't of use to us.

When HH was £49.95 a month *PLUS* calls *PLUS* ISP service then it was
horrendously overpriced ... this is actually quite a reasonable deal now.
Sure ... if I hear from my mate at NTL that they've managed to piggyback
digital services onto the crappy old Cable and Wireless network and will be
offering cablemodem service for £20 a month then I'll be beating a path to
their door but untill then (given that I have more chance of winning Miss
World than getting ADSL which I also think is a bit overpriced at the
moment
compared with cablemodems) in the current round of evalations then the HH
deal is best for me ... especially given that I don't currently have the
luxury of the clean data streams that you get from your analogue modem.
Remember it's a combination of the data rates and dialup times that have
prompted me to make this choice in the first place.

Cheers

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 24 March 2001 02:41
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
>
>
> Phil,
>
> I have studied this in depth of late after BT changed their pricing
and it
> equates to this:
>
> BT Surftime package (evening an weekend access) = £19.99 a month with
ALL
> local calls (unlimited) under 60 minutes duration included and your
line
> rental.
>
> BT Surftime package (evening an weekend access) = £14.99 a month with
line
> rental and some discounts.
>
> Extra PSTN line = £9.59
>
> So a PSTN x2 inclusive of all local calls off peak and weekend as well
as
> net access would cost £29.58 per month as opposed to £45.98 a month
for a
> similar package using HH and that's without the local unlimited calls.
>
> In other words HH is £48.00 a quarter more expensive than
> standard lines and
> I think that is too expensive for what it is! Yes it does have
advantages
> and is better than two standard lines, but BT charge £39.99 a month,
for
> that kind of money I want DSL not some muffed up half-way-house
> between true
> ISDN and a standard line. If BT want an extra £200 a year out of
> me they are
> gonna have to do better than HH.
>
> I will miss HH for convenience, but I won't miss the bill!
>
> K.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 23 March 2001 02:03
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
>
>
> Agreed ... if we eventually get Cablemodems or ADSL in my area
> then I'll be
> there waving my chequebook but given that I currently only have
> one analogue
> line in at home then this isn't a bad deal at all for me.
>
> £40 a month gets me HomeHighway (effectively two phonelines) plus
> 6pm to 8am
> weekday and all weekend internet access (which was going to cost me
£15 a
> month via BT for a modem based service). There's a call allowance
included
> and I won't be tying on the only phone line into the house all
> weekend, plus
> of course the quick dialup times are a real draw given that I can't
get an
> "always on" service yet. I have been finding that my modem
takes about 1.5
> minutes to dial up and log on and then I get between 1.7 and 2kbytes a
> second transfer rates. HH isn't ideal but it's the best solution
> I can find
> at the moment.
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 23 March 2001 09:02
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> >
> >
> > > A router would be nice, (in fact I have an Ascend Pipeline
> > kicking around
> > if
> > > I ever get it working!) because I wouldnt have to have a
> > particular PC
> > > turned on, but using ICS does give you the ability to use
> > <Mark - insert
> > the
> > > name of that dialler program here please!> to automate
dialups to
> > different
> > > numbers at different times.
> >
> > Dialer 2000?
> >
> > I have to add after the negative post that personally I LOVE
> > HH.  Of course
> > I would prefer broadband access but where I live it's not an
> > option.  Like
> > Keith I was lucky to get connections in the mid 40s.  HH
> > gives me over 7K/s
> > on most downloads.
> >
> > Another big plus over a modem is the speed of connection,
> > especially if you
> > need multiple re-dials when your ISP is busy.
> >
> > M.
> >
> >
> >
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