RE: BT ISDN + BT Anytime

["Phillip Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>]

Must admit that I loved the way that for the last hour and a half I've been
geting permanently disconnected on dial-up with a "Bad password and
username" error. Calling the BT Internet status line number (0800
whatever)
the recorded message said that the service was fine ... on calling their
premium rate support line however I assume they were having a few problems
as it's been engaged for the last hour!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 07 April 2001 23:38
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] BT ISDN + BT Anytime
>
>
> Phil,
>
> I know, I miss the convenience and additional speed of HH, I just
ain't
> prepared to pay that much for it :o)
>
> Put it this way, I'm hanging on to my Elsa Micro ISDN terminal adapter
in
> case BT see the light and bring the cost of HH down to a sensible
level,
> until then the dust will gather on it! If they get the cost down to,
say,
> even £15 a month then I'll look at it again but I fully understand
your
> predicament, really you're between the devil and the deep blue
> sea, which is
> a shame. I too have little options, but at least the PSTN service
around
> here is pretty good my mate in Irvine has the same problem as you, he
just
> refuses to pay BT the dosh!
>
> It pisses me off that between all the telecoms companies they cannot
even
> get their <expletive> act together and sort the net access
> problems out once
> and for all without all this dithering and indecisiveness that
> appears to be
> going on.
>
> I looked at the satellite option but everyone seems to rate it as crap
at
> best. Although the newer digital service is supposedly better, details
can
> be found if you do a search on the web, other than that I too am
> stuck with
> HH or POTS!
>
> K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phillip Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 07 April 2001 23:42
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] BT ISDN + BT Anytime
>
>
> Hiya Kenneth,
>
> Nope ... I don't reckon it's a rip-off as you put it ... the only
issue I
> have with BT was that at the time of ordering I was told it included
BT as
> my ISP and it didn't which is no great problem. I do have an
> issue with the
> cost of HH when compared to ADSL and cablemodems and thats where
> BT have me
> by the nuts as ADSL won't be here for at least a year or two and
> cablemodems
> are uncertain too.
>
> Where I live our phone lines are very bad ... I mean real real bad. My
> transfer rates used to be in the order of 1.5 - 2.0 kbytes/sec and I
would
> have to try maybe four or five times to get online before being able
to
> successfully connect. Each "try" would take maybe 1.5 - 2
minutes before I
> eventually nuked the connection.
>
> As soon as I had HH installed I started getting connections within 40
> seconds and transfer speeds of maybe 3 kbytes/sec *FROM MY OLD
> ANALOGUE 3COM
> MODEM* ... now that I've got the ISDN modem hooked up I'n getting
online
> within about 7 seconds from request and I'm getting close on
7kbytes/sec
> transfer rate. Not blistering compared to what I had at my last house
> (512kbits cablemodem) but a shedload better than what I was using here
a
> week ago. Plus of course I don't have the missus grumbling about
> me tying up
> the phone line nor do I have to wait in the middle of a
> conversation whilst
> my PC decided that it's going to try to dial up and check my email.
>
> My "grumble" below was at the fact that someone appeared to
have cancelled
> my install because someone else had ammended my records to say
> that mine was
> a HH line already. The different departments of BT do not talk to
> each other
> it seems and I was bounced all over the place and over about 5
different
> phone numbers to simply try to find out whether my surftime
> registration had
> gone through!
>
> I'd rather be spending £20 a month on permanent 512kbits cablemodem
access
> but in the abscence of that then HH will have to do - it ain't perfect
but
> it's a sh*tload better than what I had!
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 07 April 2001 22:31
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] BT ISDN + BT Anytime
> >
> >
> > Phil,
> >
> > Sorry I've been offline for a few days, I hate to say it but I
> > did warn you
> > about this, BT HH = BT Ripoff!
> >
> > That's what I was trying to tell you a few weeks ago and, now
your stuck
> > with it for a year, been there, got the t-shirt!
> >
> > K.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 05 April 2001 13:34
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] BT ISDN + BT Anytime
> >
> >
> > With all respect to Keith as a BT employee it seems that most
> of BT don't
> > know Jack S**t.
> >
> > I was told that my £39.99 Home Highway deal included BT Surftime
> > *AND* BT's
> > ISP charge - it didn't!
> >
> > I was told the day before the install that I already had home
> > highway so the
> > install had been cancelled...
> >
> > *sigh*
> >
> > Thankfully it did all work in the end.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Hoye [mailto:james.hoye@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 05 April 2001 13:18
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] BT ISDN + BT Anytime
> > >
> > >
> > > > Keith's understanding is mine too ...
> > >
> > > This is what we suspected - although it doesn't help having
> > > different BT
> > > people telling you contradictory things...
> > >
> > > And it's going to be a MINIMUM of 50 WORKING DAYS  to
install a 2Mbps
> > > pipe...  In this day and age...?
> > >
> > > James H
> > >
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