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Re: Ventilation/cooling of PCs
- To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: Ventilation/cooling of PCs
- From: "paul gordon" <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 07:58:01 GMT
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I agree the price differential between SCSI & IDE has narrowed in
recent
years, as has the performace differential, but it is still significant. As
an example, I mentioned I just purchased a 17.3GB Ultra-DMA66 EIDE drive,
this cost me a grand total of £144 (Inc VAT & delivery) from DABS
direct,
the cheapest SCSI drive I could find of a similar capacity came to well
over
£400!! Likewise, decent SCSI controller cards are a lot cheaper nowadays, -
I recently bough two Adaptec PCI cards for about £55 each as I recall, but
I
think I can safely say that they'll _Never_ get as cheap as EIDE
controllers: (FREE with any new motherboard!)
BTW, I still think the performance of SCSI is way ahead of EIDE, so IF you
can afford it, or justify the difference, I think it's worth it -
especially
if you have a large CD collection to rip - SCSI hardware could potentially
_halve_ the time required to do it...
Regards.
Paul Gordon.
>From: "Timothy Morris" <timmorris@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Ventilation/cooling of PCs
>Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:37:40 +0100
>
>It depends on what you use the PC for, and how old your motherboard is.
>Supermicro (and others) sell boards which have built in SCSI. The
drives
>are
>more expensive than IDE, but not by the same margin as a year ago.
>
>Tim.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: patrick@xxxxxxx [mailto:patrick@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 02 August 1999 14:06
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Ventilation/cooling of PCs
> >
> >
> > <19990802124033.48274.qmai-@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/ukha_d/?start=745
> > > Most drives are designed to run pretty hot - I just bought a
new
> > 17.3GB
> > > ultra-DMA66 for my MP3 library, which is rated to run up to
60
> > degrees
> > > celcius - that's pretty hot!
> > >
> > > None of which helps you of course! but I'm surprised to hear
of your
> > two
> > > sucessive failures - do you have any indication of the
actual temp
> > inside
> > > your PC case? - if you can, measure it, and compare it
against the
> > data
> > > sheet for the drive & see if it's within operating
range, 'cos if it
> > is,
> > > then you've got a warranty claim!!
> >
> > I too was a bit surprised - and can't be absolutely that this is
the
> > cause of failure - but it seems the most plausible explanation as
far
> > as I can see. The first drive which failed was running so warm it
was
> > almost too hot to touch; changing the case and providing
additional
> > ventilation meant the replacement drive ran warm-to-touch. The
> > temperature doesn't fluctuate significantly in the cupboard,
which I
> > would have thought would have helped to improve reliability. I
will get
> > a digital thermometer before I make any further changes so I can
> > measure before-and-after.
> >
> > Thanks to the others who have contributed suggestions. I'll add
more
> > fans to the PC case and follow up on Nigel's suggestion of a
ceiling
> > level vent. The deceased drive was an EIDE model; I'm hesitant to
> > switch to SCSI - the drives and controllers are more expensive,
and I'd
> > lose an expansion slot.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> >
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