Re: Looking for product. 110 outlet plugin device that acts as a switch based on power or no power.

[Joseph Shook <joeshook@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Art. =20
That makes sense, that would have been the simplest solution and so obvious=
 now that you pointed it out.


On Monday, October 13, 2014 5:36:16 AM UTC-7, Art Todesco wrote:
> On 10/13/2014 12:30 AM, Joseph Shook wrote:
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> > So I went down this path.  I used one of my 4.5 wall wort 4.5 supplies =
and soldered in.  This does supply power without batteries but actually doe=
s not turn on the ghost with just presence of power.  I still need to close=
 the circuit with either the built in motion sensor(poor) or push the exter=
nal mountable button.  I am back to my original desire; wish there was a st=
andard 110 wall plugin relay switch.  Technically I there is probably a mor=
e correct definition (name) for that.
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 well solder in a solid state relay.
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> > On Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:11:09 AM UTC-7, Pat wrote:
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> >> On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:22:24 -0400, Pat <pat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >>>>>> I don't want to control the outlet.  I just want a product that is=
 essentially a relay plugged into an outlet.  When there is power the conta=
cts are closed.  When there is not power the contacts are open.
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> >>>>> Seriously, if you explain what you are trying to do, you might get
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> >>>> I have an front porch motion sensor light.  I have a screw in outlet=
 so I have power access.  I then have a ghost that can be activated via a s=
witch.  So I want a product that can be plugged into the outlet.  When the =
light comes on the switch is closed, the ghost turns on.  I do not want to =
wire up 110 to a relay.  The only wiring I want to do it to the switch that=
 is exposed from the battery powered ghost.
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> >>> You could plug a small "battery emininator" into the outlet and use i=
t
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> >> I never see typos until the message is long gone.  That would be
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> >> battery eliminator (ie, a small wall wort power supply available at
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> >> Radio Shack and similar places).
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> Most of those Halloween, so called, motion detectors, are really light=20
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> level detectors ... which I guess really detects motion as light levels=
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> change. Anyway, maybe you could point the detector towards the light and=
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> when you turn it on, it will fire. Maybe you'll have to flicker the=20
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> light on and off a few times ... hey, that will add to the ambiance,=20
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> too. For years I did Halloween and one of my 1st gadgets was to blink=20
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> the front porch light using radio audio to trigger a triac to make the=20
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> light blink, look random. This scheme also worked good to run a sting of=
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> mini Christmas lights inside skulls or pumpkins to make it look like=20
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> candles flickering. But now those flickering electronic candles are=20
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> pretty cheap.