Wireless alarm system for use in home automation

[Chris <REMOVE_ChrisEGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Note: I am reposting this message because of a computer crash. I never
saw any replies so if you made a comment would you consider doing it
again? Thanks.

On to the message:

Hi,

I have installed and programmed a Control4 based home automation system
in my home. It's controlling my home theater, other media devices in the
house and all my lighting. It is an extremely capable system with a
solid programming system.

The Control4 system supports relay control and basic on/off sensor
input. I've been working with this hardware I/O to do things like
monitor and control my garage doors, turn on the sprinklers and other
great stuff. All on the workbench so far, but I'm getting ready to
design and deploy some real systems.

Now comes the fun part. In the past when I've done home brew home
automation I have used various types of motion sensors (hard-wired, X10,
light sensors, etcetera) to track people moving through the house. I
would like to start implementing the same thing using Control4.

Here is the thing though; initially (maybe forever) I don't want to run
wires. My house has both convenient areas and not-so-convenient areas as
far as new wiring goes. Also, since I work for Control4, I do a lot of
testing and experimentation with the system in my home so nothing is
really in a fixed location at this time.

I would like to use a wireless alarm system as an easy way to interface
motion and other sensors to the Control4 hardware. Yes, I know from
reading these forums that wireless is not the best way to go. But, I'm
not interested in an alarm system, I just want the sensor outputs. So, a
bit less reliability or potential "hackability" is ok.

Regardless of other features, the wireless system needs to do the following:

1. Support wireless motion sensors.

2. Provide zone outputs or some other method that tells me which sensor
has been tripped. The Control4 system will receive this information
through it's contact sensors and perform various actions. Control4 can
also do RS-232 so this is a possibility as well.

3. Fast response time. If it takes more than a second for a sensor trip
to be reported then it's too slow for home automation. This is why I've
junked my old X10 motion sensors.

Some nice to have features:

1. Other sensor types, like door/window opened and closed sensors.

2. RS-232 output in addition to simple on/off indicators. A
bi-directional rs-232 would be nice since I have the tools and skills to
write rs-232 drivers for the Control4 hardware.

3. Reasonable price. I don't want Radio Shack or X10 cheap, but don't
really want to spend $1000.00 for a basic system.  Someplace in between
would be great.

4. Expandable, especially as far as motion sensors go. I'd really like
to have motion and/or door sensors in EVERY room including bathrooms and
closets.

5. The ability to work with things like rain and moisture sensors (wired
or wireless) and other "high end" sensors would also be cool.

6. A hybrid system that can use wired and wireless sensors and can be
expanded as far as things like zones or number of sensors are concerned
would be great.

I've been looking at the Elk M1 and it seems to have everything I want.
It has 13 outputs built-in and can be expanded to 205. Plus everyone on
the form seems to know it and like it. I need to learn more about the
Elk but I kinda hope it will do what I need. It seems really capable and
flexible plus it is designed for home automation. It does not look like
it supports wireless though, and that is my major requirement. Does
anyone know if the Elk can work with wireless sensors? Also, I'm
concerned about the cost of the Elk. If it can do wireless, what's it
going to cost me for a basic system?

How about other systems? The GE Concord is wireless and looks like it
would do the job. It's cheap (sensors are pricey though) and expandable
too which is nice.

I would appreciate any comments from the group. Thanks!

Chris