Re: Electrical

[ABLE1 <somebody@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 9/28/2023 12:44 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 9/28/2023 7:05 AM, ABLE1 wrote:
>> On 9/27/2023 8:08 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>> In my process of adding an EV charging station I had wanted to add
>>> another 20 amp 220V outlet for occasional use of other 220V equipment
>>> in the garage.  (band saw, radial arm saw, non business CNC machine,
>>> etc) With the 50 amp breaker for the charging station the sub panel
>>> is now full.  They make high density breakers (4 poles in the space
>>> of 2), but I was unable to find one for this panel.
>>>
>>> I know the odds of one of you being specifically familiar is slim,
>>> but its worth a shot.
>>>
>>> Before somebody says, "Did you try Home Depot?" in a dry nasally
>>> voice. Yes I tried all the usual easy suspects.
>>>
>>> The sub panel is a GE PowerMark Gold Load Center. I am looking for a
>>> drop in 4 pole high density breaker in the configuration of
>>> 20/20-20/20. Â Â It looks like the Siemens breakers with a UNV suffix
>>> may be a correct fit, but the outside poles on the only one I found
>>> were 15 amp.  All the existing circuits are 20 amp.  The panel is
>>> currently being used as a sub panel, and is full at the moment.
>>> Other Siemens breakers I found that appeared to be a match will not
>>> physically fit.  They have a blocker plate on the connections, and
>>> the physical gap in the middle is to narrow.
>>>
>>> I did also look for a GE solution since its a GE panel, but was
>>> unable to find anything at all.  I would ask them if they had a
>>> solution I had not found, but they make accepting all cookies and
>>> agreeing to receive SPAM a condition of contact.
>>>
>>> The suffix UNV I found with the 15 amp poles was at Lowes. I did not
>>> physically try it, but visually it appears to have the correct gap to
>>> fit around the plastic rejection tab in the panel, the correct depth
>>> for the contact lugs, and correct snap in length when compared
>>> directly with the 50 amp GE breaker I used for the EV station.
>>>
>>>
>> Second Send..........  Don't know why but it did not show up on list?
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Are you a member of ContractorTalk.com??  If not, someone there might
>> have the answer to your challenge.
>>
>
> I am not.  Or if I am its been so long I have forgotten.  I shy away
> from a lot of specialty groups these days.  I get tired of the
> know-it-alls snapping off with, "Well if you don't already know hire a
> pro, take it to a dealer, or "you are un-anointed, and should be
> flogged, keelhauled, and flayed for even asking."
>

Bob,

I understand but for the most part ContractorTalk.com doesn't do that.
However what they do do is if you are not a Contractor they will
direct you to https://www.diychatroom.com and close the thread.

But it seems that you may be getting close on a solution.

Hope it works.


> Thanks Les.  I kinda freaked out.  The car heads up and her mobile ap
> both said 67-1/2 hrs to reach full charge.  That was crazy since it
> would be about the same rate as the 16 amp cord on 120V.  I was
> wondering if Kia had pulled some kind of smart chip current limiting
> bullshit, but after 12hrs it had gone from 29% charge to 60% charge. The
> estimated charge time was totally wrong.  It looks like the charger may
> not have been charging at full current but it was faster than the car
> was estimating.  I may pick up an AMPROBE and click around one of the
> 240V leads to see what the draw current is, but I'm less concerned this
> morning than I was last night.


It may be that the charging process needs to see a number of cycles to
get the estimated charge time more accurate.  Time will tell........