Re: You always think you've seen it all

[Bob La Londe <none@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 7/20/2018 10:37 AM, Jim Davis wrote:
 > On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 4:43:53 PM UTC-4, Bob La Londe wrote:
 >> "Jim Davis"  wrote in message
 >> news:2d7c3c6d-cb0a-463b-a1b1-f36abb80ebd9@
 >>
 >> On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 8:49:25 AM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
 >>> On 7/18/2018 12:32 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
 >>>> One of my customers moved to a house that already had an alarm system
 >>>> installed. Vista 20 panel with a zone expander, two keypads and get
 >>>> this...â?¦
 >>>>
 >>>> 10 motion detectors and 9 audio glass break detectors. Two out of
three
 >>>> doors have hard wired contacts. The third door has no contact (depends
 >>>> on motion detector for detection). No windows have contacts.
 >>>> The motions detectors and the glass break detectors are located in the
 >>>> corner of each room BUT â?¦.. they are mounted side by side on the flat
 >>>> surface of the wall in the corner. In other words, the motion detector
 >>>> only covers half the room and the glass break detectors don't face the
 >>>> windows.
 >>>>
 >>>> But, get this â?¦.. there was an addition put on the house. So the l0th
 >>>> motion detector is mounted in the dirt floor three foot high crawl
space
 >>>> under the addition that is separated from the original basement by the
 >>>> old foundation wall that has two basement windows as access. I guess
 >>>> because the crawl space has an outside entrance. however, the two
 >>>> basement windows are covered by a motion detector and a glass break
 >>>> detector located in the finished basement.
 >>>>
 >>>> There are three self contained 30 watt sirens in each of 3 attic vents
 >>>> powered with an auxiliary power supply through a relay and the power
 >>>> supply also powers all the glass breaks and motion detectors. No aux
 >>>> power is drawn from the panel. I'm guessing they did it that way
because
 >>>> they had a problem sharing the power with the panel because they
didn't
 >>>> know that you had to have a common ground between the supplies and
they
 >>>> couldn't get it to work right.
 >>>>
 >>>> There's also a smoke detector in the boiler room.
 >>>>
 >>>> So ��. fix that �.. why doncha!
 >>>>
 >>>> I'm guessing that this is a perfect example of a DIY project.
 >>>>
 >>>> Ya just don't know ����. what ya don't know.
 >>>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Jim,
 >>>
 >>> And you.................
 >>> Powered up, pressed * and # entered programming
 >>> changed the installer code, Master Code for customer
 >>> account number, and phone number, told the customer
 >>> to call if he has a problem right??
 >>>
 >>> I hope not!!!
 >>>
 >>> Yes, it was definitely a DIY project for sure.
 >>>
 >>> SCARY!!
 >>>
 >>> Les
 >>
 >>>>> Multiple trips to the attic (80+ degrees outside) to trace which
wires
 >>>>> to disconnect from the unused PIR's.
 >>
 >>
 >> Psssssshaw!  You don't know hot boy.  If I was dealing with such frigid
 >> temps I might still be a wire monkey.
 >
 >
 > Yeah, I can appreciate that, since you live in the baker's oven of
the US.
 > I understand that it's tradition down there that no one ever says "go
to hell" because they're already there.
 >
 > 80 degrees outside is probably like a cool winter evening to you.
Although, if I remember right I seem to remember hearing that your
nights ARE pretty cool.
 >

We see freezing temps once in a great while, but no more than a quick
frost the last few years.  I have fished winter time tournaments where
the water would come up the line more like a gel than a liquid, and you
could feel the ice break on the spooled up line every time you made a
cast.  I've seen predawn temps in the teens (F) a few times over the
years, but its been a while.  Still 80 degrees is a beautiful day around
here.  Everyday over 100 some over 110 the last month or two.  Had a
couple overcast days where it barely hit 100, but the humidity was high
so...  100 and dry is actually pretty nice if you are used to it.  100
and humid kills people, and not just in the Southwest.