Re: Comcast; loss of dial tone

["RockyTSquirrel" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ask  the Comcast people how they are getting around the Electrical Code, IBC
& IBCR   when they go in a second floor window.?

Outside to Inside requires a demarcation block with Ground..    Ideally
bonded to the Electrical Ground for the house...

Instead of trying to make a work-a-round,  I'd be calling the towns/state
electrical inspector...

Put the onus back on the cable guys....

RTS



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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:44:22 -0400, chasbo@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:56:19 -0400, chasbo@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>Am looking for a wireless device (transceiver) to sit between an Alarm
>>Control Panel and a similar wireless device (transceiver) attached to
>>the output jack of a Comcast cable box.
>>
>>The purpose is to take the ACP digital signals that are normally
>>transmitted over a land-line to a central station and, instead,
>>transmit them to the receiving unit attached to the telephone jack at
>>the rear of the Comcast cable box.
>>
>>This device would solve the following problem:
>>
>> Here in the Boston MA area the trend appears that Comcast is
>>taking away the land-line business of residential customers from
>>Verizon. Comcast installers, rather than placing their cable box
>>(containing the dial-tone output jack) in the vicinity of the old
>>Verizon interface (punch-down terminals, two-binding-post black
>>protector â?? where the outside drop meets all the red/green wires),
>>typically in the basement, they are taking the route of least
>>resistance by bringing their cable in through a 2nd floor window of a
>>room where the cable box is to be located.
>>
>> The customer's cordless base station is then plugged into the
>>output jack at the rear of the cable box, providing dial tone to all
>>the cordless house phones  When there is no wall jack in the room,
>>there is not even the opportunity to back feed dial tone to the common
>>junction point in the basement where the reds and greens are all in
>>parallel.  On those occasions when there is a wall jack in the same
>>room with the cable box, we can reconfigure the connections in the
>>basement to provide line seizure.
>>
>> Sometimes Comcast installers will get it right, rarely,
>>back-feeding to a wall jack, and in the basement severing the
>>4-conductor cable from the remaining group of reds/greens, and
>>reconfiguring to provide line-seizure.
>>
>> When the cable box resides in a part of the house where it is
>>impossible or cost-prohibitive to get dial tone to the alarm system,
>>and the customer does not want to pay for a cellular connection, the
>>alternative for the customer is to forego the monitoring of the alarm
>>system; hence a loss of revenue for us.
>>
>>It therefore would be nice to employ some type of transceiver to ship
>>the alarm signals from the ACP to a similar transceiver that would
>>plug into the dial-tone output jack at the rear of the cable box.  It
>>would have to be a duplex device, as the ACP needs to receive the
>>kiss-off tone from the central station.  It would also be important
>>that we be able to access the ACP via telephone line from our office,
>>for remote programming.
>>
>>Any ideas or work-arounds?
>>
>>Thanks.  Charlie.
>
>
> Not a solution, but an example of a device that could work; I
>would not want to gerry-rig this animal, but a manufacturer might want
>to consider designing one:
>
> Take an ordinary cordless telephone, add a jack â?? positioned
>high enough on the phone to allow the phone to sit in its charging
>cradle. Connect the ACP to the cordless phone jack. When the ACP is
>ready to ship alarm signals, it gets dial tone through the cordless
>phone jack.  No line seizure of course, but it does offer exclusive
>use of the line, once dial tone is heard.
>
> Another use of this configuration is a cordless phone
>connection to a fax machine that is positioned far from the cable box
>or from a wall jack.
>
> Another use would be in a home office where an ordinary desk
>phone might be the phone of choice, rather than the cordless phone -
>or several desk phones within an office already connected in parallel
>and positioned for convenient use, could be connected in parallel to
>the cordless phone.  This would be an advantage for me because I would
>not need to exit my chair to retrieve the cordless phone which is
>"never" close at hand.
>
> Hmmmm...  Wonder what other uses there are? Where is my patent
>attorney when I need him?
>
>Charlie

Or the output from the cordless phone coud be fed to the nearest house
jack, back-feeding dial tone to any run-of-the-mill non-cordless phone
plugged into any jack in the house.