Re: Problem with Scantronic avenger VI

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 28, 5:44=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Aug 28, 1:56=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Aug 28, 12:25=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 28, 9:53=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 27, 10:18=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 27, 6:35=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Aug 27, 3:57=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Aug 27, 8:21=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote=
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> > > > > > > > On Aug 27, 7:47=A0am, Jim Rojas <jro...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote=
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> > > > > > > > > Jim wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 27, 12:29 am, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0=
wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > >> That's not necessarily true in all cases. =A0You can't=
 always equate a
> > > > > > > > > >> "hot" battery with "dead battery". =A0Considering the =
alarm panel is
> > > > > > > > > >> prehistoric however, I'm thinking the OP should follow=
 the advice of our
> > > > > > > > > >> resident Technosaur and turf the battery. =A0I believe=
 his problems will
> > > > > > > > > >> become a thing of the past (just like his panel). =A0:=
-)
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> > > > > > > > > > That's funny. ( Technosaur) Did you just make that up?
>
> > > > > > > > > As I remember, those panels were very troublesome, keypad=
s wore out
> > > > > > > > > fast, and didn't handle static electricity very well. We =
replaced all of
> > > > > > > > > them within 5 years of their introduction back in the 198=
0's
>
> > > > > > > > > Jim Rojas
> > > > > > > > > Technical Manuals Online!http://www.tech-man.com
> > > > > > > > > 8002 Cornwall Lane
> > > > > > > > > Tampa, FL 33615-4604
> > > > > > > > > 813-884-6335
>
> > > > > > > > RHC: I've been following this thread with some interest. Yo=
u have to
> > > > > > > > wonder why some people insist upon putting an old clunker l=
ike this
> > > > > > > > back in service especially if it's going on line with the a=
uthorities.
> > > > > > > > No one would try to keep a 386 computer in service today, e=
specially
> > > > > > > > in a business application, but they'll try to keep an old a=
larm
> > > > > > > > clunker going forever. With panels and keypads available wh=
olesale at
> > > > > > > > less than $100, you really have to wonder!!!!
>
> > > > > > > > The other thing I still haven't figured out after 20 years =
in the
> > > > > > > > business, is a customer will go out and spend $1000 on a bi=
g screen
> > > > > > > > TV, but not a penny on a decent alarm.....go figure-
>
> > > > > > > Only a thousand??? =A0 I had a couple I was called in to give=
 them a
> > > > > > > quote on an alarm system at $1500.00 and they put me off but =
scheduled
> > > > > > > me in to do a $5000.00 home theater installation that the own=
er had
> > > > > > > all the equipment and was going to attempt but got cold feet =
when he
> > > > > > > saw how much there was to it.
>
> > > > > > > Of course, I turned them down ..... (yeh sure ....;-> i figur=
e now
> > > > > > > that they saw what I could do with the HT they'll call me bac=
k for the
> > > > > > > alarm.
>
> > > > > > > That's the " I Want My MTV" =A0generation for ya.
>
> > > > > > RHC: Yeah, it also might be that an alarm system is not a "fun =
thing"
> > > > > > to buy; it's seem by many as simply an unfortunate but necessar=
y
> > > > > > purchase that they would rather do without. So it makes it easy=
 to go
> > > > > > cheap, or not go at all.
>
> > > > > > Had another interesting thing happen today. I had confirmed an
> > > > > > installation for today a couple of days ago as I always do, and=
 when
> > > > > > we arrived, there was no one to be seen. Since the guy was a do=
ctor,
> > > > > > he couldn't be reached, so pissed off as hell, I left my card i=
n the
> > > > > > door and went home. A wasted day !! He calls my son later and g=
ives no
> > > > > > reasons for not being there, and no apologies, so my son said I=
 would
> > > > > > call back and reschedule.
>
> > > > > > Yah right, when hell freezes over!! =A0As a doctor, he can leav=
e me
> > > > > > waiting for hours and I put up with it because I know his time =
is
> > > > > > valuable, =A0but he doesn't have the decency to treat my time a=
s
> > > > > > valuable as well. I'm thinking =A0should send him a bill for a =
day's
> > > > > > labour and see how he likes that.....
>
> > > > > > Prick !!-
>
> > > > > Now Robert!!!!!!!
> > > > > I know that you and I don't have the same kind of philosophy in a=
ll
> > > > > things but I can't imagine that you'd miss an opportunity like th=
is,
> > > > > especially with a "doctor"
>
> > > > > Simply call him back ...... make an appointment to start the job =
early
> > > > > in the morning......... and when the time comes for you to be the=
re,
> > > > > give him a call, tell him you ran into a little delay and that yo=
u'll
> > > > > be there within two hours. When that time comes, call him and tel=
l him
> > > > > that you're en-route and will be there within a half hour ...... =
then
> > > > > call him and tell him that you hope he enjoyed wasting his time t=
he
> > > > > way he wasted yours but you've decided that you prefer to deal wi=
th
> > > > > people who have more consideration for others. And that if he wou=
ld
> > > > > treat you that way BEFORE you were doing business together, that =
you
> > > > > couldn't imagine what he would do to you once you were more invol=
ved.
> > > > > Have a nice day................
>
> > > > RHC: Yeah, wouldn't that be great feeling of "gotcha". However, lif=
e
> > > > is too short to engage in these sorts of activities, no matter how
> > > > justified they might be. Things in life that go around, usually com=
e
> > > > around. Who knows, why leave someone who might affect future busine=
ss
> > > > with a bad taste in their mouth. People like this would probably ha=
ve
> > > > no problem "bad mouthing" my company in a crowd somewhere no matter
> > > > how unjustified it is....
>
> > > > People like that are just not worth bothering with when all is said
> > > > and done. Dealing with idiots is just the price you have to pay
> > > > sometimes when in business....-
>
> > > Hmmm, obviously you're in a smaller "community" then I am.
>
> > > "Bad mouthing" a business in my area is like a fart in a windstorm,
> > > unless your a mega company.
>
> > RHC: Well I wouldn't call a city of a million people a small
> > community. However, this is a heavy government and high tech area, and
> > everyone is connected together via company and government newsgroups
> > and blogs on the internet. Employees of several of the larger
> > companies in town, as well as a number of government agencies, often
> > discuss who they got their alarm from, and it helps if everyone
> > recommends you. I am told, it makes it a lot easier for everyone
> > reading the newsgroup to make a good purchase, since they don't have
> > to start their shopping from ground zero - others have done the
> > research.
>

> There's only one thing that can ruin my day at this point and that's
> not in my plans either ..... but hey ..... ya never know.

RHC: Yeah, ask RLB about that one.....:((