Re: the cold smoke issue

[nick markowitz <nmarkowitz@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jul 20, 7:07=A0am, "ABLE1" <royboynos...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> "Bob La Londe" <nos...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:i2353d$hes$1@spera=
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> > "nick markowitz" <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> On Jul 19, 9:33 am, "Doug" <n...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> "nick markowitz" <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >>> > Couple years back there was an engineer who gave all this nonsense
> >>> > about =A0cold smoke and smokes vs heats any one remember his websit=
e.
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> >>> I'm not sure if this is the person you were looking for, I don't thin=
k
> >>> he
> >>> was the one touting wind up heats over smoke detectors, but it might =
be
> >>> somewhere to start
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> >>> Try googling Richard M Patton fire
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> >>>http://www.life-support-technologiesllc.com/10thousandchildren.html
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> >>>http://www.firecrusade.com/pdfs/TheIAFCChallenge.pdf
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> >> Thats Him. have been getting recycled emails on him again.
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> > Wind up heat detectors... =A0I have not thought of this in a million ye=
ars,
> > but ages ago we had a large travel trailer that had a wind up heat
> > detector mounted about 2 off the floor on the side of the kitchen count=
er.
> > My dad bought it because housing was always an issue in our rural area.
> > He would rent it to employees of our grocery store very cheap.
>
> > An employee fell asleep with a lit cigarette while watching TV in the
> > living room area. =A0He set the throw he had on the couch on fire along=
 with
> > his hair. =A0He said he wasn't sure if it was the windup heat detector
> > clattering away at him or the fact that his head was on fire that woke =
him
> > up. =A0LOL.
>
> > I know. =A0I know. =A0Its an anecdote that promotes a product most beli=
eve is
> > bad, but in that case it worked. =A0Please don't revoke my ASA card. =
=A0I
> > promise to come back and bad mouth a poor performing vendor again any d=
ay
> > now.
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> My guess it was his hair being on fire that woke him up.
>
> Years ago these things were being sold to the Amish to be put in their
> bedrooms to let them know the house was on fire. =A0Sad part is the fuse =
link
> was set to 135F degrees and at that point you would already be dead.
>
> My Dad had bought a couple of them at a auction many years ago as a novel=
ty.
> At least on is still on the shelf some where in his shop. =A0I should pro=
bably
> grab that thing and start a "Museum of Bad Ideas".
>
> Les

I have a wind up one unit that an FM traded with me thats actually UL
approved.
its from 50's
he has a collection of Fire grenades as well .
they where glass filled globes with carbon tet you thru in a fire.
We have  a lot of Amish here in Pa and i still get requests from them
for the wind up heats.