Re: False Alarm

[Jim <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Oct 12, 1:49=EF=BF=BDam, Frank Olson
<use_the_email_li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Nomen Niesco wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 11:19 pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On Oct 11, 10:26 pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >>> On Oct 11, 8:17 pm, Frank Olson
> >>> <use_the_email_li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> mleuck wrote:
> >>>>> On Oct 10, 11:55 pm, Frank Olson
> >>>>> <use_the_email_li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>> mleuck wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Oct 9, 4:07 pm, Injun Ear <gonsleen...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Last night, I got a call from my monitoring service saying my ha=
ll
> >>>>>>>> motion detector had tripped the alarm. =EF=BF=BDWe were at a chu=
rch meeting.
> >>>>>>>> They said they were sending the cops. =EF=BF=BDWhen we arrived h=
ome everything
> >>>>>>>> was intact. =EF=BF=BDNo doors or windows breached.
> >>>>>>>> So, what could have caused the Honeywell Aurora motion detector,=
 that
> >>>>>>>> was just installed 3 months ago, to go off? =EF=BF=BDCould it be=
 a loose
> >>>>>>>> connection or could it be a bug walking across the contacts? =EF=
=BF=BDI
> >>>>>>>> installed this system myself using most of the existing wiring f=
rom my
> >>>>>>>> old system. =EF=BF=BDThis is the first problem I have had with i=
t.
> >>>>>>> The most likely reason for it going off is that it's a Honeywell
> >>>>>>> Aurora motion
> >>>>>> Don't they have the multiple pulse count selector?? =EF=BF=BD2 thr=
ough infinity
> >>>>>> (the latter setting would ensure they *never* went off). =EF=BF=BD=
Whoops... =EF=BF=BDI'm
> >>>>>> confusint that with the AlarmFarce "pet proof" detector. =EF=BF=BD=
Pulse count?
> >>>>>> What's that? =EF=BF=BD We'll just mount the sucker 3 and a half fe=
et from the
> >>>>>> floor and turn it upside down. =EF=BF=BDThen we'll stick a sign ou=
t front with a
> >>>>>> big red line on it. =EF=BF=BD"Notice: =EF=BF=BDBurglars must be ta=
ller than this line to
> >>>>>> break in. =EF=BF=BDCaution, we will use threatening language if yo=
u do (in both
> >>>>>> official languages)."
> >>>>> Did an AlarmForce rep beat you as a kid or something?
> >>>> Joel's constantly "beating us up" on the radio. =EF=BF=BD"We have th=
e best
> >>>> system", "if it's not an Alarmfarce system, you're wasting your mone=
y",
> >>>> "we haven't raised our rates in fifteen years", "the installation is
> >>>> free, the equipment is free, the warranty is free, all you pay is a =
low
> >>>> monthly monitoring fee". =EF=BF=BDI've never even seen an Alarmfarce=
 rep (do
> >>>> they really exist???), just taken out about a hundred of their crapp=
y
> >>>> systems.
> >>> Sounds like sour grapes
> >> RHC: No Mark, it's anything but ! Frank is being too kind but entirely
> >> accurate. Alarmforce is absolutely the worst option available. It make
> >> the "free system" look like a good deal ! It's a triumph of slick
> >> marketing over common sense !!
>
> >> Their "installers" have a target of 10 installations a day (and I know
> >> this from one of them who left because he couldn't stand it anymore).
> >> As a professional in this business, what does that tell you ?
>
> >> Alarmforce is apparently planning on opening up 38 franchises in the
> >> USA. Wait until this shit comes your way......
>
> > I used to get pissed about companies like these. But now I look at it
> > like this: They spend tons of money getting people who might otherwise
> > have not bought security systems to buy their crap. Now the people
> > have become security conscious.Then they inevitably get pissed at the
> > high prices and lack of service, =EF=BF=BDat which point, small, reputa=
ble
> > companies can scoop up their customers by the truckload.
>
> No. =EF=BF=BDUnfortunately they can't. =EF=BF=BDTheir systems are "propri=
etary",
> although I'm sure Jim's got a couple of their programmers "hidden" in
> the back of his garage. =EF=BF=BDIt's mostly unsupervised crap. =EF=BF=BD=
Most of the
> people that get "sucked in" to their hype aren't "security conscious" to
> begin with. =EF=BF=BDWho in his right mind would believe you can "buy saf=
ety and
> security" for nothing down, and "one low monthly fee"? =EF=BF=BDAnd then.=
..
> when you actually look at what they put together as a system... =EF=BF=BD=
One
> PIR, one door contact, and a keypad... =EF=BF=BDI'm sorry... =EF=BF=BDI d=
on't subscribe
> to that kind of marketing and I wouldn't be caught *dead* selling a
> "cookie-cutter" system. =EF=BF=BDWhen we go into a home, it's with a view=
 of
> ensuring the customer can make an educated choice on the security and
> life safety options available to him. =EF=BF=BDI'm a great believer in a
> professional security survey.
>
> These Alarmfarce guys don't even "see" the customer's house until the
> day of the supposed "install" and the guy that shows up is usually a
> pimple faced kid with a big roll of 3-M's double sided tape whom they
> simply thrown a uniform on and call an "installer".
>
> I had a friend of mine call them when he moved into a new house that was
> *PREWIRED* for a security system. =EF=BF=BDHe mentioned the fact that the=
 house
> was *PREWIRED* about seven times during the telephone call with the
> AlarmFarce rep and (sight unseen) the agent never even considered
> utilizing the wiring in the house as even an option. =EF=BF=BDWhen Joel s=
ays (in
> one of his radio ads) that "AlarmFarce is =EF=BF=BDone of the most truste=
d names
> in the security business", I have to make sure I'm not talking to a
> client at the counter for fear they'll think I'm having some sort of
> apoplectic seizure I'm laughing so hard. =EF=BF=BDTheir stuff is *CRAP* w=
ith a
> capital "K".
>
> There are even rumours that ol' Joel has a Brinks system at his house...
> =EF=BF=BD :-)-