Re: Simplex wants Union workers to install there product

[nick markowitz <nmarkowitz@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jul 17, 1:33=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 10:01 am, Frank Olson
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> > Jim Rojas wrote:
> > > nick markowitz wrote:
> > >> Have a contractor I do sub work for that has a large retirement
> > >> village he handles and they like our work .
> > >> We have been installing Simplex equiptment with no problems and it
> > >> works great.
> > >> Now al of a suden the rep for Simplex says they only want Union
> > >> workers installing there products there. Needless to say the
> > >> management told them No . It us or no one .
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> > >> Since when is its simplex buisness to say who installs ther stuff.
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> > > They have no right to make such demands. Only the AHJ can require tha=
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> > > Jim Rojas
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> > In BC, the AHJ has no authority in the decision for a contractor (or
> > owner) to use union or non-union workers. The owner has the option of
> > inviting (and accepting) bids from union contractors only, however. It
> > is, after all, HIS project.
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> Usually, (in my experience) the unions usually get involved when the
> customer has a union shop. It's that union who, when seeing work done
> for their employer, will try to get manufacturers, or who ever they
> can, to "suggest" that only union contractors be allowed to do work at
> the company. It depends upon the relationship between the employer and
> his union people. If he hasn't lived up to their (usually outrageous)
> demands they may try to give him a hard time in this regard.
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> I've been threatened with "my office" =A0being picketed because I was
> doing alarm work in a small shop in a major shopping mall. I was
> informed that any wires being pulled must be done by a union
> electrician, even if the alarm guy had to stand by his side to tell
> him what kind of wire, provide the wire and where to run it. In this
> case, they were going to "allow" me to hook up the hardware and set up
> the system as long as the shop owner "paid" (off) the Mall
> electrician. While they were contacting the shop steward and the union
> reps to get me ousted from the premises, I just continued working and
> ran the wires and left. Next day, I expected big trouble but when I
> got there no one happened to be there and I finished the job.
> (although I had to do it with only lights coming in through the front
> glass windows). I figured someone was going to sabotage the job, but
> nothing happened for some reason.
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> When one of the irate union workers was threatening me with my
> "workers and office and all of my jobs" being picketed, I asked him
> how proud he felt in front of his family about making a career out of
> being overpaid for doing little to nothing for a living and that he
> was free to picket my house anytime he wanted to. I'd provide
> sandwiches and soda. He seemed a little confused about what to do
> about that.
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> It's really hard for me to imagine what kind of mentality these people
> have about any sense of accomplishment in their lives. It's the same
> mentality of those people who think the government should take care of
> them from the time they're born till they die. They want no
> responsibility for themselves. Just let someone else do the work to
> sustain the infrastructure while they reap the benefits. No thoughts
> about the drain on society and on those who actually produce more than
> they consume.
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we know part of it is were good at what we do so simplex techs do not
get extra work orders for stuff not being done right