Re: Simplex wants Union workers to install there product

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jul 17, 1:33=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 10:01 am, Frank Olson
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> <use_the_email_li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Jim Rojas wrote:
> > > nick markowitz wrote:
> > >> Have a contractor I do sub work for that has a large retirement
> > >> village he handles and they like our work .
> > >> We have been installing Simplex equiptment with no problems and it
> > >> works great.
> > >> Now al of a suden the rep for Simplex says they only want Union
> > >> workers installing there products there. Needless to say the
> > >> management told them No . It us or no one .
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> > >> Since when is its simplex buisness to say who installs ther stuff.
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> > > They have no right to make such demands. Only the AHJ can require tha=
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> > > Jim Rojas
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> > In BC, the AHJ has no authority in the decision for a contractor (or
> > owner) to use union or non-union workers. The owner has the option of
> > inviting (and accepting) bids from union contractors only, however. It
> > is, after all, HIS project.
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> Usually, (in my experience) the unions usually get involved when the
> customer has a union shop. It's that union who, when seeing work done
> for their employer, will try to get manufacturers, or who ever they
> can, to "suggest" that only union contractors be allowed to do work at
> the company. It depends upon the relationship between the employer and
> his union people. If he hasn't lived up to their (usually outrageous)
> demands they may try to give him a hard time in this regard.
>
> I've been threatened with "my office" =A0being picketed because I was
> doing alarm work in a small shop in a major shopping mall. I was
> informed that any wires being pulled must be done by a union
> electrician, even if the alarm guy had to stand by his side to tell
> him what kind of wire, provide the wire and where to run it. In this
> case, they were going to "allow" me to hook up the hardware and set up
> the system as long as the shop owner "paid" (off) the Mall
> electrician. While they were contacting the shop steward and the union
> reps to get me ousted from the premises, I just continued working and
> ran the wires and left. Next day, I expected big trouble but when I
> got there no one happened to be there and I finished the job.
> (although I had to do it with only lights coming in through the front
> glass windows). I figured someone was going to sabotage the job, but
> nothing happened for some reason.
>
> When one of the irate union workers was threatening me with my
> "workers and office and all of my jobs" being picketed, I asked him
> how proud he felt in front of his family about making a career out of
> being overpaid for doing little to nothing for a living and that he
> was free to picket my house anytime he wanted to. I'd provide
> sandwiches and soda. He seemed a little confused about what to do
> about that.
>
> It's really hard for me to imagine what kind of mentality these people
> have about any sense of accomplishment in their lives. It's the same
> mentality of those people who think the government should take care of
> them from the time they're born till they die. They want no
> responsibility for themselves. Just let someone else do the work to
> sustain the infrastructure while they reap the benefits. No thoughts
> about the drain on society and on those who actually produce more than
> they consume.
>
> Ayn Rand was a prophet first .... then a philosopher.

RHC: Many years ago, when I was young and still wet behind the ears, I
was employed as a salesman for a large national telecommunications
company up here. The union were very concerned by the fact that the
large sales staff were non unionized and wanted to bring them into the
union. So one day, they organized a large rally of all the sales
people to listen to their pitch. The audience was largely bored by it,
since most of the people in attendance were fairly aggressive sales
people, used to achieving things on their own and not the type to join
a union at the best of times.

Well, I stupidly and naively got up and asked a simple question of the
panel members at the front of the audience. I simply asked what was in
this deal for us...pretty simple question really, and a valid one if
these people were going to be taking our money for services rendered.
Well, you'd think I cursed out loud, or made some terrible
remark....the panel went silent until one of them jumped up,went
ballistic, pointed his finger in anger, and said..." I know that
troublemaker; he's at all our rallies"...and proceeded to tear me
apart with comments I don't even remember, since I was so stunned by
this stupid kind of response to a very simple question ! When I
couldn't get a word in edgewise, I simply got up and left. To
everyone's surprise, the whole body of sales people got up behind me
and left the auditorium....

They never did unionize the sales staff...not then, nor twenty years
in the future....:((     Stupidity generates it's own reward !!!!