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Re: Brinks v Rojas Update Request



Actually, I don't want most of the customers that buy into that to begin
with.





"Just Looking" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:46f2d0bb$0$19620$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Well if we all want to preach how poor customers get screwed with Brinks,
> then I think most everyone here should be singing a different tune. Most
> here are, or simply should be,  in love with Brinks and their business
> practices. How many times has anyone gone to a Brinks job and found
> anything
> other than generally substandard workmanship, improper placement and/or
> misapplication of products, poor customer service, on and on. It is not
> the
> fault of just being a large company. BCI for example
> http://www.bci-tech.com
> is a big company and I have yet to see anything other than a good job done
> by any of its employees. I have seen jobs where BCI has clearly out
> performed us, and that doesn't make me happy to say that necessarily, but
> its true. Even the head guy there isn't a arrogant SOB like so may CEO
> types
> can be, especially and including Brinks, judging from their legal efforts
> to
> date. If Brinks' market wasn't geared to the low end trunk slammer market
> segment, more of us here might run across them. But when you do find a
> Brinks installation, it is simple enough to listen to an unending list of
> complaints from the customer, give the customer your references and then
> get
> a new customer every single time. If any single company got every
> dissatisfied Brinks customer in its service area, that flood of work could
> literally sink that company. Unless or until companies that provide a good
> product and service, and charge a fair market price for it, make a
> cooperative effort at consumer education, and simultaneously treating
> Brinks, ADT etc. as the pariahs to the industry they truly deserve to be
> treated like in my opinion, things won't change for the poor end user.
> Let's
> face the truth, because it is not a joke, or being boastful, or hyperbole;
> Brinks and ADT generate a ton of new profitable business, for almost no
> sales effort for many an alarm company. It is literally a conflict of
> interest to claim to want to help victimized end users on one hand, and
> making efforts to be ridding the world of companies like Brinks and their
> ilk on the other. For us, in meeting after meeting, our policy is to help
> and stranded Brinks, ADT, etc, sales or service vehicle stranded on the
> side
> of the road is restated. Those companies are the best unpaid sales force
> out
> there. We make and hear complaints about Brinks, but there is truly not
> any
> effort afoot at the dealer, distributor, manufacturer or anywhere else in
> the industry to really do anything about them. Every one is simply making
> too much money leaving things the way they are. And shame on us all when
> the
> guys like Jim Rojas get ground up by Brinks well financed legal machinery.
> Although it's not from unlocking panels necessarily, in the end most of us
> are getting richer from Brinks sales efforts and our expansion Brinks'
> former customer base.
>
> "Anonymous" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:7c012229bc96ce98242f6b74b90eff26@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Does anyone know whats going on with Brinks Security and Jim Rojas?
>>
>> Angry Man In Gauteng
>
>



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