Re: Something went Bad Wrong!

["RockyTSquirrel" <gafa_usa@/nospam/hotmail.com>]

could of had a floating ground at the pump.
ground would have then gone to the panel.
resulting in a larger voltage from the supply..

rural  america  is full of old wiring with a weak or missing device ground.
RTS


"Robert L Bass" <RobertLBass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hmm.  A nail shorted one lead of the transformer secondary to one
> lead of the sump pump.  When the sump kicked in you got 140 VAC?
> There must have been something else wrong.
>
> Aside from that, I don't see how the sump could send voltage when it
> kicked in unless there was an open neutral.  All the residential sump
> pumps I've seen have constant hot, neutral and ground connections.
> When the float rises a switch is thrown, completing the circuit, but
> even then the voltage on the neutral and ground wires should be ~0.
>
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> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
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> >I went to a customer yesterday about 5:00pm. He said the alarm
> >system stopped working. I installed this system about 4 months ago
> >from a takeover. He had a DSC system that was installed by a Larger
> >Company. (With the Blue three letter logo). But since I like to
> >upload and download I replaced the board. Had to run a few new wires
> >because it seemed they had a 6 zone panel, but only 4 zones were
> >used. This company loved to double up zones. I don't like that.
> >Well, after arriving at his house, I checked the voltage on the AC
> >terminals... it was at 0 volts. So I checked the transformer.
> >Transformer was not putting out any voltage at all. So I replaced
> >the unit. Panel still didn't work. I checked the voltage back at the
> >panel and found 16.5 VAC. so it must be the board...I told him I
> >would have to replace this board but thought it was strange that it
> >didn't last very long. Well, I came back with the new board. Wired
> >everything up and was getting ready to wire the AC wires to the
> >terminals... Just as I grabbed one of the wires, I got a shock of my
> >life. It held on to my hand like I have never felt before. It seemed
> >like forever but I finally got away from it... I think I almost
> >pissed my pants. After I came too, I grabbed my volt meter and
> >checked to voltage. The meter read 140. I told the man what I found
> >and he was kind of shocked... I asked him what it could be from and
> >he didn't know. I asked if anything happened the same time that the
> >alarm quit working. He said no.
> >
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> > A long story short, the other alarm company ran the AC line from
> > the garage where it is plugged in an outlet, (using 22/4 wire) all
> > the way to the other side of the house then down to the basement.
> > Well, I found after tracing the wire, it ran next to the 120 volt
> > wire for the sump pump and there was a nail that was used to hold
> > down the 110VAC wire. But the other installer also used that nail
> > to hold the power wire down for the control panel. He must have
> > pulled in through the nail because the insulation was rubbed off
> > showing copper on both wires. When the sump pump kicks on, it sends
> > voltage through the low voltage wire and it blew up the alarm
> > panel. I guess I will not use other company's wires again. When I
> > first arrived to bid the system, the wiring job looked nice...
> > Man.. I was wrong.
> >
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> > M
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