Re: 2 or 4 wire smoke detector question.

["Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Roland More" <NoSpamroland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> >where I have a problem its when some innocent fellow gets killed for no
> >damn good reason
>
> That is always going to happen in war, any war, anywhere. That is part of
> the nature of war.
>
>>I found Israel as guilty as Hezbollah or Hamas of terrorist act, point
>>done...nothing more,
>
> You're in a club with few other members Pete. There are sanctions by
> nearly everyone in the world against Hezbollah and Hamas. The world has
> seen the vast differences between these two entities and Israel. Too bad
> you can't.

this is because the USA support Israel,remove your suport and they will be
considered a rogue country as the other that act like them are..


> The asymmetry of resources between Israel and those that oppose Israel
> does not make their terrorist actions against Israel legitimate. No one
> casts a blind eye toward the suffering of the Palestinians, however their
> terrorist actions turn off the whole world and cut the support they need
> out from underneath them.

Could it be that they never had some real support,or they could have had
some but under condition that no one would have tolerate?


In fact here in the U.S. one could end up in jail if he or
> she were dumb enough to try to send support to any of them. That should
> really say it all. Wake up.
>

Nope the wake up call came in september 2001,you didnt got it...


> "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Just Looking" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>>> If you read some of my old posts you'll see that I mention that all
>>> those
>>> acts you just mentioned were complete acts of terrorism by true
>>> terrorists.
>>> I even bitched about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in the 1967
>>> six
>>> day war that you didn't seem to mention (maybe you thought that was a
>>> good
>>> thing)
>>
>> Nope! i dont think its a good thing,NOT AT ALL!!what you dont seem to
>> understand here is that i found Israel as guilty as hezbollah or Amas of
>> terrorist act,point done...nothing more,and leuck (and many more here)
>> are saying that what Israel is doing is all ok!the support of such act by
>> Israel is the problem,not that they are jew or what muslim or what ever
>> other insane religious group,what i say is that they should be kicked in
>> there as so strong that they would regret hitler,and the muslim that use
>> terorism should have ther butt kicked even more harder...
>>
>> the problem is all those innocent dying,i dont have a problem when 2
>> country start sending troups at each other(and bomb ect..) where i have a
>> probleme its when some innocent fellow get killed for no damn good reason
>>
>>
>>
>> . I am still bitching about Jonathan Pollard (convicted of spying for
>>> Israel). That said it doesn't change the fact that the Israel of today
>>> that
>>> includes Arabs and Muslims is not the group of terrorists of yesteryear
>>> that
>>> were busy terrorizing the British. I think only Shimon Peres is the only
>>> guy
>>> around from way back then that is still active in politics. What makes
>>> you a
>>> phony nut job is you can't point to groups like Hezbollah and Hamas as
>>> terrorist having a policy of terrorism and fully condemn it. You have to
>>> use
>>> some crazy logic and say that some Jew farted 50 years ago when the
>>> Nation
>>> of Israel didn't even exist yet and say the terror groups today are
>>> simply
>>> trying to wipe out the smell.
>>
>> once a terrorist ,allways one,they used that tactic and it worked,why
>> wouldnt they used it again?
>>
>> Ousama was trained in the 70's for terrorism,what is he still doing now?
>> or better worded,what his follower are doing?
>>
>> what do you know about the one that followed the old one that were leader
>> in the 50's in Israel?
>> at what tactics were they trained?
>>
>> The problem of the Palestinian right of return
>>> is certainly one without easy solutions. But adding terrorism to the mix
>>> because of that problem and thinking its a legitimate answer or reaction
>>> isn't even rational.
>>>
>>
>> I am sure that if Palestinian would have some real help to establish
>> themself on there terriotory,with full access to there holy places in
>> Jerusalem,the bombing would slow,even even stop,of course that will not
>> happen in 5 minute,after 50 more years of bitching at each other tension
>> would not dissipate in thin air like that,but the statuquo and over
>> reaction from each side at any act of terrorism isnt rational either....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:SlQri.50187$Mw2.377879@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> "Roland More" <NoSpamroland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
>>>> news:
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>>>> > >And Israel again never did anything to receive those >rocket?
>>>> >
>>>> > I wonder what Israel could have done?
>>>>
>>>> -----------------Snip the totally imbecile statement--------------
>>>>
>>>> Roland,stop thinking in short term,and try to remember more then what
>>>> happened 5 minute ago,the world dont start every morning fresh,there is
>>>> an
>>>> history to Israel,they have done bad thing too,jew were also (and are
>>> still)
>>>> using terror to creat there country
>>>>
>>>> here,s some exemple:
>>>>
>>>> "Assassination of government official outside Palestine: first used
>>> against
>>>> the British in Cairo, 6 November, 1944 when Lord Moyne, Secretary of
>>> State,
>>>> was assassinated by the Stern Gang. Yitzhak Shamir, a member of the
>>>> Irgun
>>>> and later leader of the Stern Gang was behind the plan.
>>>>
>>>> Taking of hostages to put pressure on a government: first used against
>>>> the
>>>> British in Tel Aviv, 18 June, 1946.
>>>>
>>>> Blowing up government offices with their civilian employees and
>>>> visitors:
>>>> first used against the British in Jerusalem, 22 July, 1946. The toll
>>>> was
>>> 91
>>>> Britons, and 46 injured in King David Hotel. Begin, who masterminded
>>>> and
>>>> carried out the attack admitted that the massacre was coordinated with
>>>> and
>>>> carried out under the instruction of the Haganah.
>>>>
>>>> Booby-trapped suitcase: first used against the British Embassy in Rome,
>>>> 13
>>>> October, 1946.
>>>>
>>>> Booby-trapped car parked alongside buildings: first used against the
>>> British
>>>> in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5 December, 1946.
>>>>
>>>> Flogging of hostages: first used against the British in Tel Aviv,
>>>> Natanya
>>>> and Rishon, 29 December, 1946.
>>>>
>>>> Letter-bombs sent to politicians outside Palestine: first used against
>>>> Britain when twenty letter-bombs were sent from Italy to London between
>>>> 4
>>>> and 6 June, 1947.
>>>>
>>>> Murder of hostages as a reprisal for government actions: first used
>>> against
>>>> the British in Natanya area on 29/30 July, 1947 and making a booby trap
>>> out
>>>> of their bodies. The note left with the bodies read: "This is the
>>>> sentence
>>>> of the Irgun's High Command".
>>>>
>>>> Postal Parcel-bomb sent outside Palestine: first used against the
>>>> British
>>> in
>>>> London, 3 September, 1947. "
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > In case you missed the point Pete,. Israel is an important ally of
>>>> > the
>>>> > United States.
>>>>
>>>> that every body in the worls knows,and its the main reason why you have
>>>> so
>>>> much terrorist after you..
>>>>
>>>> Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and an important ally
>>>> > to Iran, a terrorist sponsoring country.
>>>>
>>>> Like Israel was (and still is) but right now the terrorist act are not
>>>> toward you,so you say its only retaliation...
>>>>
>>>> remember Roland, the freedom fighter of some are the terrorist of the
>>>> others...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Trying to equate Israel and
>>>> > Hezbollah in terms of actions or policy is beyond ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>> No saying that Israel is all white and never did something wrong is
>>>> being
>>>> just an hypocrite,or even worst just being naive like a baby..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Making
>>>> > arguments for Hezbollah's actions, or any other mid east terror
>>>> > organization, makes you look not like a reasoned observer, but a Jew
>>>> > hating nut job.
>>>>
>>>> Thats what you think,view with the glasses of a brain washed american
>>>> zombie..
>>>>
>>>> Wait, never mind, everyone here already thinks you're a Jew hating
>>>> > nut job!
>>>>
>>>> I dont hate jew, but i dont hate islamist eithere,what i hate is the
>>>> fact
>>>> that USA help a terrorist country ,then when hit back by the wave they
>>> start
>>>> to cry for revenge,when its them that helped in there misery..911 was a
>>> very
>>>> bad thing and its outragious no innocent should never die like
>>>> that...but
>>> it
>>>> was predictable..too bad you didnt saw it comming and could have act in
>>>> a
>>>> way to help your people and not help a foreign country that put you in
>>> much
>>>> more trouble then its worth for...
>>>>
>>>> and Iran is doing the same fucking thing on there side,wich i find as
>>>> dumb
>>>> as you,but what the heck its allways the same thing,acting like
>>> kids...while
>>>> having life innocent in your hands...i hope one day you will see the
>>>> blodd
>>>> in your hand..the blood of fellow american AND of innocent woman and
>>>> kids
>>> on
>>>> those country bombarded by Israel,cause if you support there terrorsit
>>>> action,you are as guilty as them...
>>>>
>>>> i dont support any of the action of hezbollah, but just think of what
>>> would
>>>> be your reaction if the guys in mexico started taking some land of
>>>> yours,what would be your reaction?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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