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Re: 2 or 4 wire smoke detector question.
Nope the wake up call came in September 2001, you didn't got it...
I think we call the call, but I'm afraid they're the ones that are still
hearing the ringing in their ears. I think they learned a new English word
to describe what happened to them when they lost a few countries. I saw it
spelled one time as "eargrsplittewithloudengoboomen" by a Marine Corps
explosive ordnance disposal expert. I'd say things haven't been great for
them since September 2001. Perhaps they might try a new strategy that
actually serves their interests instead of their emotions.
"Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:_Ygsi.2$KC5.194@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> "Roland More" <NoSpamroland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 46b09f1a$0$29661$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >where I have a problem its when some innocent fellow gets killed for no
> > >damn good reason
> >
> > That is always going to happen in war, any war, anywhere. That is part
of
> > the nature of war.
> >
> >>I found Israel as guilty as Hezbollah or Hamas of terrorist act, point
> >>done...nothing more,
> >
> > You're in a club with few other members Pete. There are sanctions by
> > nearly everyone in the world against Hezbollah and Hamas. The world has
> > seen the vast differences between these two entities and Israel. Too bad
> > you can't.
>
> this is because the USA support Israel,remove your suport and they will be
> considered a rogue country as the other that act like them are..
>
>
> > The asymmetry of resources between Israel and those that oppose Israel
> > does not make their terrorist actions against Israel legitimate. No one
> > casts a blind eye toward the suffering of the Palestinians, however
their
> > terrorist actions turn off the whole world and cut the support they need
> > out from underneath them.
>
> Could it be that they never had some real support,or they could have had
> some but under condition that no one would have tolerate?
>
>
> In fact here in the U.S. one could end up in jail if he or
> > she were dumb enough to try to send support to any of them. That should
> > really say it all. Wake up.
> >
>
> Nope the wake up call came in september 2001,you didnt got it...
>
>
> > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:iNZri.51847$Mw2.414381@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> "Just Looking" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >> 46afe341$0$12214$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> If you read some of my old posts you'll see that I mention that all
> >>> those
> >>> acts you just mentioned were complete acts of terrorism by true
> >>> terrorists.
> >>> I even bitched about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in the 1967
> >>> six
> >>> day war that you didn't seem to mention (maybe you thought that was a
> >>> good
> >>> thing)
> >>
> >> Nope! i dont think its a good thing,NOT AT ALL!!what you dont seem to
> >> understand here is that i found Israel as guilty as hezbollah or Amas
of
> >> terrorist act,point done...nothing more,and leuck (and many more here)
> >> are saying that what Israel is doing is all ok!the support of such act
by
> >> Israel is the problem,not that they are jew or what muslim or what ever
> >> other insane religious group,what i say is that they should be kicked
in
> >> there as so strong that they would regret hitler,and the muslim that
use
> >> terorism should have ther butt kicked even more harder...
> >>
> >> the problem is all those innocent dying,i dont have a problem when 2
> >> country start sending troups at each other(and bomb ect..) where i have
a
> >> probleme its when some innocent fellow get killed for no damn good
reason
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> . I am still bitching about Jonathan Pollard (convicted of spying for
> >>> Israel). That said it doesn't change the fact that the Israel of today
> >>> that
> >>> includes Arabs and Muslims is not the group of terrorists of
yesteryear
> >>> that
> >>> were busy terrorizing the British. I think only Shimon Peres is the
only
> >>> guy
> >>> around from way back then that is still active in politics. What makes
> >>> you a
> >>> phony nut job is you can't point to groups like Hezbollah and Hamas as
> >>> terrorist having a policy of terrorism and fully condemn it. You have
to
> >>> use
> >>> some crazy logic and say that some Jew farted 50 years ago when the
> >>> Nation
> >>> of Israel didn't even exist yet and say the terror groups today are
> >>> simply
> >>> trying to wipe out the smell.
> >>
> >> once a terrorist ,allways one,they used that tactic and it worked,why
> >> wouldnt they used it again?
> >>
> >> Ousama was trained in the 70's for terrorism,what is he still doing
now?
> >> or better worded,what his follower are doing?
> >>
> >> what do you know about the one that followed the old one that were
leader
> >> in the 50's in Israel?
> >> at what tactics were they trained?
> >>
> >> The problem of the Palestinian right of return
> >>> is certainly one without easy solutions. But adding terrorism to the
mix
> >>> because of that problem and thinking its a legitimate answer or
reaction
> >>> isn't even rational.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I am sure that if Palestinian would have some real help to establish
> >> themself on there terriotory,with full access to there holy places in
> >> Jerusalem,the bombing would slow,even even stop,of course that will not
> >> happen in 5 minute,after 50 more years of bitching at each other
tension
> >> would not dissipate in thin air like that,but the statuquo and over
> >> reaction from each side at any act of terrorism isnt rational
either....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:SlQri.50187$Mw2.377879@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>> "Roland More" <NoSpamroland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
> >>>> news:
> >>>> 46af5bff$0$20586$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > >And Israel again never did anything to receive those >rocket?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I wonder what Israel could have done?
> >>>>
> >>>> -----------------Snip the totally imbecile statement--------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Roland,stop thinking in short term,and try to remember more then what
> >>>> happened 5 minute ago,the world dont start every morning fresh,there
is
> >>>> an
> >>>> history to Israel,they have done bad thing too,jew were also (and are
> >>> still)
> >>>> using terror to creat there country
> >>>>
> >>>> here,s some exemple:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Assassination of government official outside Palestine: first used
> >>> against
> >>>> the British in Cairo, 6 November, 1944 when Lord Moyne, Secretary of
> >>> State,
> >>>> was assassinated by the Stern Gang. Yitzhak Shamir, a member of the
> >>>> Irgun
> >>>> and later leader of the Stern Gang was behind the plan.
> >>>>
> >>>> Taking of hostages to put pressure on a government: first used
against
> >>>> the
> >>>> British in Tel Aviv, 18 June, 1946.
> >>>>
> >>>> Blowing up government offices with their civilian employees and
> >>>> visitors:
> >>>> first used against the British in Jerusalem, 22 July, 1946. The toll
> >>>> was
> >>> 91
> >>>> Britons, and 46 injured in King David Hotel. Begin, who masterminded
> >>>> and
> >>>> carried out the attack admitted that the massacre was coordinated
with
> >>>> and
> >>>> carried out under the instruction of the Haganah.
> >>>>
> >>>> Booby-trapped suitcase: first used against the British Embassy in
Rome,
> >>>> 13
> >>>> October, 1946.
> >>>>
> >>>> Booby-trapped car parked alongside buildings: first used against the
> >>> British
> >>>> in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5 December, 1946.
> >>>>
> >>>> Flogging of hostages: first used against the British in Tel Aviv,
> >>>> Natanya
> >>>> and Rishon, 29 December, 1946.
> >>>>
> >>>> Letter-bombs sent to politicians outside Palestine: first used
against
> >>>> Britain when twenty letter-bombs were sent from Italy to London
between
> >>>> 4
> >>>> and 6 June, 1947.
> >>>>
> >>>> Murder of hostages as a reprisal for government actions: first used
> >>> against
> >>>> the British in Natanya area on 29/30 July, 1947 and making a booby
trap
> >>> out
> >>>> of their bodies. The note left with the bodies read: "This is the
> >>>> sentence
> >>>> of the Irgun's High Command".
> >>>>
> >>>> Postal Parcel-bomb sent outside Palestine: first used against the
> >>>> British
> >>> in
> >>>> London, 3 September, 1947. "
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > In case you missed the point Pete,. Israel is an important ally of
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > United States.
> >>>>
> >>>> that every body in the worls knows,and its the main reason why you
have
> >>>> so
> >>>> much terrorist after you..
> >>>>
> >>>> Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and an important ally
> >>>> > to Iran, a terrorist sponsoring country.
> >>>>
> >>>> Like Israel was (and still is) but right now the terrorist act are
not
> >>>> toward you,so you say its only retaliation...
> >>>>
> >>>> remember Roland, the freedom fighter of some are the terrorist of the
> >>>> others...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Trying to equate Israel and
> >>>> > Hezbollah in terms of actions or policy is beyond ridiculous.
> >>>>
> >>>> No saying that Israel is all white and never did something wrong is
> >>>> being
> >>>> just an hypocrite,or even worst just being naive like a baby..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Making
> >>>> > arguments for Hezbollah's actions, or any other mid east terror
> >>>> > organization, makes you look not like a reasoned observer, but a
Jew
> >>>> > hating nut job.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thats what you think,view with the glasses of a brain washed american
> >>>> zombie..
> >>>>
> >>>> Wait, never mind, everyone here already thinks you're a Jew hating
> >>>> > nut job!
> >>>>
> >>>> I dont hate jew, but i dont hate islamist eithere,what i hate is the
> >>>> fact
> >>>> that USA help a terrorist country ,then when hit back by the wave
they
> >>> start
> >>>> to cry for revenge,when its them that helped in there misery..911 was
a
> >>> very
> >>>> bad thing and its outragious no innocent should never die like
> >>>> that...but
> >>> it
> >>>> was predictable..too bad you didnt saw it comming and could have act
in
> >>>> a
> >>>> way to help your people and not help a foreign country that put you
in
> >>> much
> >>>> more trouble then its worth for...
> >>>>
> >>>> and Iran is doing the same fucking thing on there side,wich i find as
> >>>> dumb
> >>>> as you,but what the heck its allways the same thing,acting like
> >>> kids...while
> >>>> having life innocent in your hands...i hope one day you will see the
> >>>> blodd
> >>>> in your hand..the blood of fellow american AND of innocent woman and
> >>>> kids
> >>> on
> >>>> those country bombarded by Israel,cause if you support there
terrorsit
> >>>> action,you are as guilty as them...
> >>>>
> >>>> i dont support any of the action of hezbollah, but just think of what
> >>> would
> >>>> be your reaction if the guys in mexico started taking some land of
> >>>> yours,what would be your reaction?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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