Re: http://www.instantunlocker.com/

["tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You don't carry spare boards in your truck when you do takeovers....?

Hmmm.....

RHC

A.J. wrote:
> Most times it is actually more than 30 minutes to replace a board.
>
>
> For a business :-
>
> 1. PC5020 locked, only have 5010 in the truck. (1/2 hour)
> 2. Go pick up board from Tri-Ed (1/2 to 1 hour)
> 3. Might as well have lunch. (1 hour )
> 4. Go back and replace board. (30 minutes)
> 5. Program new board to work according to keypad label, may or may not be up
> to date. (10 minutes )
> 6. Hunt down the right person who has a list of access codes, and most time
> people don't have a list. (15 minutes )
> 7. There are 4 wires connected to all 4 pgm outputs on the board and non of
> them are labelled. (1 hour to figure it out )
> 8. You know what I mean.
>
>
> Yes, for $300, the unit will definitely pay for itself on the first use, and
> save a lot of frustration.
>
>
>
>
> "Doug L" <vssdoug@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:o8PJg.2090$AP2.794@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > If it costs $25 and five minutes labour to unlock a board versus $50 and
> > 30 minutes to replace a board, I would consider it a worthwhile investment
> > if you are in the business of taking over a lot of systems that are locked
> > out.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > --
> >
> > "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:1157082090.892658.125800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> With boards costing as little as $50, how can this possibly give you
> >> your money's worth the first time out...or the tenth time out for that
> >> matter. As Jim says, he has spent significant  money for the equipment
> >> necessary to do most any board made. I too have spent thousands of
> >> dollars to do just DSC and Paradox, and probably Ademco if I cared to
> >> spend the time. It is not as easy as plugging in a gizmo and setting
> >> the board's installer code back. If it were that simple, I would buy
> >> the thing myself !!  A great many of the boards that I unlock have been
> >> sabotaged by an irate installer, with the panel locked, and the board
> >> in alarm, so this device won't do the job. And the boards that are
> >> actually the most valuable to unlock are the older DSC boards that are
> >> no longer available (1550, 2550, 3000)
> >>
> >> Since it is only available to professionals in the trade, it does
> >> nothing for the many end users who buy a home and find they have a
> >> locked board. And since most alarmco's don't want to bother with any
> >> alarm that isn't monitored, that still leaves many people out.
> >>
> >> However, to give credit where credit is due (or may be due), it will be
> >> worth watching to see if this gizmo catches on, or is simply a one shot
> >> wonder..
> >>
> >> I too very much agree with the poster who is amazed that any one would
> >> take the time to develop a product with such a limited vertical market
> >>
> >> RHC
> >>
> >> A.J. wrote:
> >>> It will probably work 99% of the time and considering you don't have to
> >>> replace the board, just the first time you use it you are already
> >>> getting
> >>> the money worth. Too bad it only works on DSC Power Series and Ademco
> >>> Vista
> >>> series currently.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:1157065516.730447.211360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > Jim, assuming this rig actually does work, what does it end up costing
> >>> > the user per alarm board to be unlocked. I can't find any prices. I
> >>> > notice this comes from area code 905 which is around the Toronto area.
> >>> > Knowing what you and I know about this subject, this device makes me
> >>> > wonder if it may even be a scam. I wonder if it works if the panel was
> >>> > left in alarm state when it was taken out of service; with DSC and
> >>> > Paradox at least, you cannot enter programming mode via the installer
> >>> > code unless the board has first been disarmed. So simply knowing the
> >>> > installer code will do mothing in a lot of cases (meanwhile, you've
> >>> > just been charged something....)
> >>> >
> >>> > R.H.Campbell
> >>> > Home Security Metal Products
> >>> > www.homemetal.com
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Jim Rojas wrote:
> >>> >> All the product does is change the installer code. If the panel does
> >>> >> indeed have a download lockout, or local programming disabled, this
> >>> >> product is totally useless.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This product makes my unlock services look like a Walmart special...
> >>> >> :)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Jim Rojas
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>   "A.J." <aj@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:OCIJg.487010$Mn5.312285@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>   This is pretty amazing, somebody actually spent the money and have
> >>> >> an
> >>> >> unlock device manufactured for such a narrow vertical market.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>     "George Siegle" <gsiegle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:OzHJg.1709$0k7.467@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>     http://www.instantunlocker.com/
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> >>> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All the product does is change the
> >>> >> installer
> >>> >> code.
> >>> >> If the panel does indeed have a download lockout, or local
> >>> >> programming
> >>> >> disabled,
> >>> >> this product is totally useless. </FONT></DIV>
> >>> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >>> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This product makes my unlock services
> >>> >> look
> >>> >> like a
> >>> >> Walmart special... :)</FONT></DIV>
> >>> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >>> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim Rojas</FONT></DIV>
> >>> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >>> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> >>> >>   <DIV>"A.J." &lt;<A href="mailto:aj@xxxxxxxx";>aj@xxxxxxxx</A>&gt;
> >>> >> wrote
> >>> >> in
> >>> >>   message <A
> >>> >>
> >>> >> href="news:OCIJg.487010$Mn5.312285@pd7tw3no";>news:OCIJg.487010$Mn5.312285@pd7tw3no</A>...</DIV>
> >>> >>   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is pretty amazing, somebody
> >>> >>   actually&nbsp;spent the money and have&nbsp;an unlock&nbsp;device
> >>> >> manufactured
> >>> >>   for such a narrow vertical market.</FONT></DIV>
> >>> >>   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >>> >>   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> >>> >>     <DIV>"George Siegle" &lt;<A
> >>> >>     href="mailto:gsiegle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>gsiegle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;
> >>> >> wrote in
> >>> >>     message <A
> >>> >>
> >>> >> href="news:OzHJg.1709$0k7.467@clgrps13";>news:OzHJg.1709$0k7.467@clgrps13</A>...</DIV>
> >>> >>     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
> >>> >>
> >>> >> href="http://www.instantunlocker.com/";>http://www.instantunlocker.com/</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >>> >>
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