Re: Let's say I break into your house 9, was: Good news for US -- Secure Fence Act of 2006

["Tommy" <tommy at leesecurity.net>]

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> The example you used "someone broke into your house" is irrelevant.
> When someone breaks into your house he invades your privacy. Hard
> working immigrants don't.
>
They "broke into" our country.

> How about humanity? Think about them as Human Beings instead of Illegal
> Immigrants. They have already gone thru a lot of shit, they put their
> lives on the line before they reached this land, now you want to deport
> them to make their lives even worse? that's exactly the same thing
> territorial animals do to those who invade their territories. Give them
> a break!
>
Yes, they are human beings, and I don't wish them ill. However they put
their lives on the line breaking the law of this country, so yes i do want
to deport them.  We are all territorial in nature.  territorial animals will
allow others through their territory if they proceed in the correct manner.


> Did you know that it is extremely difficult to come into the USA
> legally? Those who broke in illegally had no chance in hell to get a
> work VISA. That's why they tried the other way. They deserve staying
> here, so treat them as refugees of poverty and be nice to them, maybe
> learn their language so you can understand them better, I'm sure first
> German Immigrants spoke German. Immigrants also try very hard to learn
> English as well. And of course their children will learn English and be
> productive Americans. Humans have a brain that enables them to learn
> other languages, Animal don't, if the wolf hears his mate barking he
> will deport him.
>
I cannot make blanket statements about who might get VISA's.  Why do they
"DESERVE" to stay here? Yes they can learn a language, yet by my experience
most seem to not want to learn english or assimilate into america.


> Illegal Immigrants took the risk that many of US immigrants did in the
> 1700's and 1800's who were granted the right to stay here permanently,
> this may include your ancestors.

Look at your statement. see any differences in it.  Illegal vs US
immigrants. this country is built around immigration, yet those immigrants
of yesteryear were processed and documented, not snuck in through backroads
and in trucks.


>
> So get off your ego mind. They are here now and you need to deal with
> it. And maybe change/add a few laws to accommodate them, after all you
> will HAVE to, you have no choice, there are millions of them.

It has nothing to do with ego.  we do need to deal with them, and it will
probably involve some sort of amnesty. Accomodation is not the answer,
assimilation is. if they want to come to america, become americans.  Drink
beer, pay taxes, pay insurance, pay bills, have a heart attack, then die


>
> The only thing I agree with is that America should secure the borders
> but let the illegal immigrants that are already here be Americans.
> Using your example; nobody leaves their house door wide open to
> strangers, and no company will insure your house if you have no doors.

like i said assimilation into our culture.

>
> Secure the borders America, MAKE AMERICA MORE DIVERSIFIED, and increase
> that 55,000 a year Diversity VISA lottery/giveaway program:
> http://travel.state.gov/pdf/DV_2008_Final.pdf
>
> Love it that AMERICA is getting more diversified! Racists and Animals
> are hating it because they are scared of the outcome.
>
> A *LEGAL* Immigrant,
>

Glad to hear that you came in the right way.
>
>
> Tommy wrote:
>> Here is a copy of an e-mail that puts it into perspective.
>>
>>
>> Let's say I break into your house
>>
>> A lady wrote the best letter in the Editorials in ages!! It explains
>> things better than all the baloney you hear on TV.
>>
>> Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country
>> protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of
>> illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect
>> its  own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and,
>> once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the
>> thinking behind these protests.
>>
>> Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in
>> your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds
>> and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done
>> all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-w working and honest
>> (except
>> for when I broke into your house).
>>
>> According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add
>> me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other
>> benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work
>> because he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in
>> part).
>>
>>
>> If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who
>> will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.
>>
>> It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and
>> I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest, um, except
>> for well, you know.
>>
>> And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a
>> fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it
>> without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an
>> anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you
>> can communicate with me
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>
>> > Bass said:
>> >
>> > > The project is a waste anyway.  They'll just tunnel under it or ram
>> > > through it like they do all the time in places where there already is
>> > > a
>> > > fence.
>> >
>> > Therefore, we should just disband the Border Patrol, since the illegals
>> > will just come in anyway?
>> >
>> > Fences work great, if you build a good enough fence.   The Great Wall
>> > of
>> > China, for example.
>> >
>> > > The real reason that Bush is willing to put up this fence is to
>> > > appease
>> > > his xenophobic, right-wing, Republican base who hate Mexicans and
>> > > most
>> > > other immigrants (never mind the fact that virtually all of them are
>> > > descendants of immigants).
>> >
>> > Yeah, what the hell, let's just stand by and do nothing while tens of
>> > millions of illegal aliens invade our country.  After all, if I come
>> > home
>> > some night and find a stranger in my living room, I should let him
>> > stay,
>> > because "all he wants to do is sleep."
>> >
>> > Tens of millions of Mexicans sneak across the border, and eventually,
>> > we
>> > give them amnesty.  Meanwhile, they breed like rabbits, and all their
>> > kids
>> > are automatically U.S. citizens, because the kids were born here.  It's
>> > not
>> > only an invasion, but a geometrically increasing influx.
>> >
>> > Like all the pro-illegal groups, you lump legal and illegal immigrants
>> > into
>> > one category, and then say that America is a nation of immigrants.  The
>> > point is, American citizens should control how much immigration is
>> > allowed.
>> > We shouldn't let the illegal aliens make that determination.
>> >
>> > Billions of people throughout the world would dearly love to come to
>> > the
>> > United States and work.  They can't all live here.  Seal the borders,
>> > and
>> > let Americans decide how many immigrants they are willing to let into
>> > this
>> > country.  It is, after all, our country, not theirs.
>> >
>> > - badenov
>>
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