Re: FAX BASS

[Frank Olson <Use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jim wrote:
> Frank Olson wrote:
>
>>Group-Moderator wrote:
>>
>>>I am placing a fax order with Bass so far I have 567 pages with the item I
>>>want on page 456, he will get all 567 pages so he can see **Exactly** what I
>>>want
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>That's a really "adult" solution.
>
>
> Frank,
>
> Your pulpit is tarnished and getting a little too much to bear.

No body's perfect.


> If you're going to do what your going to do just fucking do it.
> If you want to talk "adult" take a look at your wide swing of
> responses in this epic over the period of years.

Yeah...  well...  Robert has that effect on people.  Every once in a
while I just "lost it".  It still makes me angry to see him doing the
things he does, but I don't let it get to me anymore.  I realize he's
just an "installer wannabbee" with a huge chip on his shoulder.  If you
look at him that way, you tend more towards "pity" than "anger" so that
when he "lashes out" (flails around?), and you manage to keep your head,
and respond civilly, you make him look even more pathetic.  Example:
FIRETEK.  Robert posted a number of flames against him and how did he
respond?  Robert posted a bunch of useless HTML into the Group and how
did he respond??  Granted, Robert knows even less about FIRETEK than he
knows about most of us, but that just made Robert look even worse.  Why
do you think he posted a number of his "PR" messages within the "Great
deal, great product" thread??


>
> It doesn't
> make any difference if you pound Fat Ass with a sledge
> hammer or a pussy willow, he's going to be nasty rotten
> cocksucker that he's always been.

Right.  So, you obviously prefer the "sledgehammer" which makes you look
worse than Robert (thats an observation, not a flame).


> When you meet one
> of them, you treat them as what they are.

Actually, I think Robert would be escorted from the room by Hotel Security.


> Music may
> soothe the savage beast, but your dealing with a malicious
> bastard here, and you damn well know it.

Unfortunately, yes.  I do know that.


> You can't win
> a war by throwing flowers at it. You fight it with more than
> the same thing that the enemy can throw at you and you
> never .... ever give up.

We're all "reasonable men", Jim.  Those that aren't sort of tend to
ostracize themselves.


>
> You have "your" soulution, others have theirs.
> Remember you can't tell anyone what to do here and
> if you don't like it, your free to leave at anytime.

I'm not trying to "tell" anyone here what to do.  I'm merely making a
"reasonable suggestion".  Nothing you or Mike have been doing is working
and all we wind up with is a lot of noise and no signal.


>
> Personally I think what you're trying to do actually sucks and
> is a perfect example of a sham in action.

I can't "please" everyone.  I'm not here to "please" anyone.  I'm here
for the camaraderie and to share and gain knowledge.  This isn't a
"sham" and I have no intention of "going back" to what I was doing before.


> The last thing that
> will cause anything to change here.You're trying to deal in a civil
> manner with an utterly corrupt and degenerate son of a bitch.
> But, obviously no one can stop you.

Nope.  No one can.  As for being a "corrupt and degenerate son of a
bitch", I see a pretty pathetic individual that's been forced to sell
his house and has moved back in with his parents.  His son is helping
him answer the phone, etc.  Things are obviously not going as well for
Robert as he tells us.


>
> Try and tell me to act "adult" why dontcha!

Sure.  Act adult, dammit!!


> And you know right
> where I'll tell you to shove it.

Heh...


> There's no boundaries here
> anything goes .........

There's "ethics" and "decency".  Lead by example.


> just look to Fat Ass as an example ..... in
> case you've forgotten. He sets the pace and if your not up to it
> then just do what your going to do

Robert can be "dealt with" in other ways that don't involve more "venom
and vitriol".


> ...... It won't stop anything.

Maybe not right away.


> The best we can hope for is that we annoy the shit out of Bass,
> make him do things that will simply add and add and add to his
> list of vicious and spiteful things he's already done here. His list
> gets easier and easier to write, everytime someone new comes
> here.

So does yours (again, not a flame, just an observation).  Robert uses
what you do against you as well.


>
> You may act like you're riding a "high horse" but in case
> your interested it smells like horseshit to me.

I happen to love horses and "mucking out".  Gives you a real sense of
satisfaction to know the shit your shoveling is going to be doing
something useful (like helping my wife's roses).


>
> Since there will never be any concentrated effort by everyone here
> to take a unified stand that will cause Basstard to leave here,
> You do your thing and others will do theirs.

Sure.  And the Group will "stay as it is".  I can live with that.  I
asked a question of Robert a while back:

"If you were to drop dead of a heart attack this afternoon, how will you
be remembered?"  (or words to that effect).


>
> And I KNOW you know, that ignoring him is not the answer.

Nope.  In case you haven't noticed, I'm not "ignoring him".  He's
"ignoring" me.


>
> Love and kisses

Awww shucks...  Back atcha, man!!  :-)

Frank Olson
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com