Re: Ademco 50P - Unable To Disarm

["Don" <dedeaux@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, I am a DIYer.  Renovation is almost complete on my two-family
home.  The walls are closed.  I have used the star topology.  Each
contact and break is its own zone.

I DO have auxiliary power but in light of the calculation I believe the
power I have is insufficient.  I used the "worst case" philosophy
meaning the system is in alarm and all devices are active.  I took the
current draw for each item from its specification sheet.  It is very
possible I have misunderstood something in the spec sheets and/or the
suggestions made in this list.  I might have also made an arithmetic
mistake in the calculation.

Smoke...........ESL: 541NB......20.0 mA...x15...300.0 mA

Heat...Chemetronics: 601.........1.0 A....x2...2000.0 mA

Heat........Edwards: 280.........1.0 A....x1...1000.0 mA

CO..............ESL: 240-COe....75.0 mA...x2....150.0 mA

Glass........Acuity: AC-100.....35.0 mA...x18...630.0 mA

Siren...........ELK: ELK-150RT...1.2 A....x1...1200.0 mA

Siren........Ademco: Wave 2F...500.0 mA...x4...2000.0 mA

Strobe..........ELK: SL1.......140.0 mA...x1....140.0 mA

Keypad.......Ademco: 6160......150.0 mA...x7...1050.0 mA

Extender.....Ademco: 4297......350.0 mA...x1....350.0 mA

Expansion....Ademco: 4208U.......28.0 mA...x2....56.0 mA

Expansion....Ademco: 4208U......27.3 mA...x6....163.8 mA

Total..........................................9039.8 mA


Although included in the computation above, the strobe, sirens, 4
smokes, 3 breaks, 1 heat and 1 CO are not connected.  Their wiring is
in place.

In addition to the devices above, a Central Sprinkler Company Riser
Manifold is installed but not connected.  Its Potter Waterflow switch
seems to draw 2.5A @ 30VDC.  I assume this will require an independent
power supply.

The AlarmSaf site lists only 4 12/24VDC power supplies that provide
total current in excess of 9039.8 mA:  Models 00866, 00867, 01367, and
01363.   The site lists 5 "2.5 - 10 AMP Power Limited" power supplies.
The max total current among these is 4A.

Should I be looking at "Battery Capacity" rather than "Total Current"?

All corrections and suggestions as to power supply, configuration and
everything else in regard to this system are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


Crash Gordon wrote:
> We've already lost some of the head-end of this thread so it's hard to
> remember.
>
> If it's really got that kind of draw on it, it's no wonder it couldn't be
> disarmed.
>
>
>
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:25e80fb71dbda9847e4c28e1fb03d957@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> | Crash Gordon said:
> |
> | >You must have made an addition error...9039 ma would be 9 amps, something
> | >should be smelling funny by now even in at idle that'd be somewhere
> around
> | >4-5 amps ?!
> |
> | I agree.  He also keeps talking about this "loop extender" that has a
> | plug-in transformer and its own battery, only he says he doesn't have any
> | auxiliary power supply.  So I have no clue what he's talking about, but
> | nine amps out of a Vista-50 just ain't happening.
> |
> | And I think Don said earlier he's a DIYer; maybe I'm mistaken.
> |
> |