Re: DIY is a rocky road.

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Like what features?


"Allan Waghalter" <awaghalter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Ademco might be easier to program, but the Napco is so much more
versatile.
| More features make for more programming.  As for me, I would rather be
able
| to configure a panel the way my customer wants to use it than be held to a
| more restricted panel.
|
| "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > Ademco is not a large percentage of my installs...and ya know I've never
| > really had problems with their stuff..at least the few models that I do
| > use.
| >
| > But having said that...at least Ademco stuff easier to program than
| > NappyKO
| > :-)
| >
| > As far as programming goes though, nothing beats DMP for ease of
| > programming...sheesh it's like using an ATM machine just answer
questions
| > in
| > english. Panel of choice for this AARP installer.
| >
| >
| > "Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:39EAf.4606$Hd4.3835@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | That's what you get for installing Ademcrap..... :-)) hee hee
| > |
| > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | >I agree. I've been doing this stuff for almost 25 years and sometimes
I
| > | >have
| > | > to read the manual over and over again...and then STILL have to call
| > tech
| > | > support --- who speak with a decidely off-shore accent. Its
| > frustrating
| > at
| > | > times, but its good when you get it right.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Charles Schuler" <charleschuler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | > |
| > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | > | > Yep they do, and you have to speak Alarmish, a sub-dialect of
| > 'Glish.
| > | > | > They're not written for DIYers.
| > | > |
| > | > | They are not written for anybody who knows how to read and also
| > trusts
| > | > what
| > | > | they read:
| > | > |
| > | > | Installer code
| > | > | User code
| > | > | Default code
| > | > | Master code
| > | > |
| > | > | In the manuals that I am trying to read, all of the above appear
| > with
| > no
| > | > | definitions and are obviously used inappropriately, in some cases.
| > | > Trying
| > | > | to program something as simple as time and date becomes a
| > mind-bending
| > | > | experience.  Not because it needs to be ... it's because the hacks
| > who
| > | > wrote
| > | > | the manuals don't themselves understand the terms that they are
| > using,
| > | > or
| > | > | perhaps are semi-clever agents dedicated to the demise of DIYs.
| > | > |
| > | > | I used to think this sort of thing was only endemic among offshore
| > | > products
| > | > | designed and built by other than English speaking engineers.  Now,
I
| > | > have
| > | > a
| > | > | whole new perspective on this issue.
| > | > |
| > | > | I know, I know ... this "stuff" is intended for professional
| > installers
| > | > and
| > | > | they just enjoy the hell out of DIYs hanging out here, twisting in
| > the
| > | > wind.
| > | > | My tenacity will prevail, in any case.
| > | > |
| > | > | Maybe I'll put up a website and further illuminate this extremely
| > dark
| > | > | corridor of consumer electronics in the good ole yew ess of aay.
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