Re: 2 more alarm Alarm Companys lying to customers

["ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Nick, not saying you are totally wrong here but just because the lynx worked
does not mean "ALL" panels will work.    And I am sure that if the power is
off for the building (unless there is considerable UPS) no panel will work
on VoIP.

It has a lot to do with liability and less to do with lies.  The subscriber
or the alarm company???  If a customer of mine insist on VoIP then they will
sign a waiver saying that I explained the ups and downs and/or risk.  Food
for thought.

I am sure you have lit a big thread hear and I may have just thrown some
extra 89 Octane to get it started real good.

Les




"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Nick Markowitz wrote:
>> Have Seen 2 good ones this week in Pittsburgh.
>> Was at a pastors home hooking up his computers to his new cable modem and
>> he
>> got the cable  companys phone service and the cable salesman told him
>> that
>> most panels did not work on the cable companys telephone network. Of
>> course
>> the security company that they own does. Went out to the truck brought in
>> a
>> lynx fired it up on sevral different formats and they all worked on test
>> acct at central station.
>> Salesman of course had nothing but excuses for lying about what he said .
>> Needless to say all the pastors niehbors on the streeet that bought the
>> horse shit line of this saleman are going to be firing the alarm company
>> the
>> cable company owns when there contracts come up on renewal by certified
>> letter. since they were lied to.
>>
>> 2nd case construction contractor i sub contract  fire alarm work to
>> had his fire panel damaged by a surge. Techs came in from company that
>> did
>> original install said panel was hit by lightning and pointed at some
>> wires.
>> sales man for company came by to estimate fire panel replacement and told
>> the construction company owner he would have to totally upgrade system as
>> this is what the twp and new state codes required. Realy  I called
>> twp and state and since system was not required in first place and was
>> voluntary all they had to do was replace panel or if they chose eliminate
>> system all together.Unless there insurance carrier wanted it in place.
>> needless to say they changed panel at a cost of $1250.00 and saved
>> $15,000.00 they were quoted by original alarm company and original
>> company
>> will no longer be given any further buisness .
>>
>> There is more than enough work for every one in the Pittsburgh area that
>> wants it and why companys continue to indoctrinate there techs and sales
>> people to lie is beyond me all they are doing is hurting there own bottom
>> line by spewing out lies and un truths.
>> --
>> Nick Markowitz Jr.
>> Owner
>> Markowitz Electric Protection
>> Private Industry Fire Investigator.
>> Qualified Electrical- Fire Alarm Contractor
>>
> Only if they get caught and unfortunately, they don't get caught often
> enough.
>
> I place it in the same category as dry wall installers and carpet
> installers. They cut, pull, short, bury the wires and there's nary a
> one of them who ever seems to realize what they do wrong.  Reason??
> Because by the time their 'Handywork" is discovered, they're long gone
> and been paid. They never suffer the consequences of having their
> income affected as a result of their lack of skill, or concern.
>
> I've seen the same thing as you mentioned lots of times. I think it
> stems from the fact that these companies think that their customer is
> going to trust them and not go out and look for another opinion. ......
> so .... they see a way to make a killing.
>