Re: your feedback on DIY security alarm system

[aerosmith <aerosmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Thanks for the detailed info. I think I will go for the M1 Gold. I was
also thinking about the following in the alarm system to trigger alarms
(something similar to peer-peer software).

When the alarm in one house goes off it should send a signal it's peer
which is nearest to it (probably the neighbour's security system). In
this case even if the PSTN line or the iternet line is cut off we can at
least warn our helpful/watchful neighbours for a quick response. In this
collaborative way we can make the alarm system more secure and tamper
proof. And our neighbour's alarm system can do the same thing. I don't
know if such a system already exists. But if it does not do you think I
can patent this technology ;-)?

Now off to froogling for the M1 Gold :).

Thanks.


On 8/13/2006 12:26 PM, Jack Edin wrote:
> I believe most if not all current alarm panels can detect if the phone
> line is cut.
>
> The mighty M1 from Elk surely can, and does!
>
> I use an M1 Gold myself. Spend the extra money - go for the gold!
>
> Most alarm systems have the phone wired such that the home's incoming
> PSTN wires loop through the alarm panel, THEN back out to the house. As
> such if the phone is in use, the alarm can still take control and dial
> out - as needed. This also prevents the intruder from interrupting the
> call out by picking up a phone within the house, etc.
>
> The alarm will monitor the PSTN... This is a low level feature.
>
> On a higher level the M1 is an automation controller. You program it
> with "Rules" with just about ANY desired result.
>
> So for example you might write a rule like this one:
>
> WHENEVER TelephoneTamper becomes Active
> AND Alarm is NOT Armed
> THEN Speak "Warning: Telephone is disabled"
> THEN send e-mail message #2
> Then...
>
>
> The AND statement shown isn't needed, of course. But I show you to
> illustrate the kind of control you have. M1 knows if it is Dark or Light
> outside, and that might make a difference to you...
>
> You can have multiple Rules for any given situation. So if the alarm was
> armed, in Away-mode, and the PSTN goes away, you might choose to
> activate the siren(s) and flash the lights, etc.
>
> You can control the action(s) easily. The ElkRP software works very
> well. Use it to program the M1 with your PC via serial, or even modem.
>
> Add the Ethernet option to the Elk, and you can communicate with the M1
> over your LAN or over the Internet! And the M1 can send e-mails, etc.
>
> ElkRM software is a cool option, and I love it! I use it on a wireless
> PDA to monitor and control the M1. It also allows M1 controlled things
> like lights and thermostat to be controlled by my hand-held device
> wirelessly.
>
> I use MisterHouse software, and I've interfaced it with the Elk M1 too.
> I have MH send messages to the M1 over the LAN, and I've written Rules
> to deal with them. For example I use MH to do a CallerID lookup. Each
> database entry has a category (vendor, family, friend, etc.) associated
> with it. So if it is a friend, the word "Friend" - when received by the
> M1 on it's ethernet port, will trigger it to speak a pre-defined
> message! Same thing as when my mailbox is opened: A wireless signal
> received my MH results in M1 telling the home's occupants verbally.
>
> If you want it ALL, and you know the extra $$$ spent divided by the
> number of years of service you'll get out of it (not to mention the
> improved functionality) make it an easy choice...
>
> You want the Elk M1 Gold.
>
> Now go shopping!
>
> ;-)
>
> Jack
> :)
>
>
>
> aerosmith wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> One question about Elk M1EZ8 though. If any of the wired connections get
>>  disconnected or if the PSTN wired is cut off from the control unit does
>> the device set off an alarm in another way (like triggering the siren
>> through the speakers)? If the PSTN wire is cut off how can the alarm
>> system notify the owner? Can we run some software elsewhere on the
>> internet and keep poking the control unit to see if it is reachable or
>> something like that? I am just thinking about the extreme conditions
>> where the burglar might cut off the PSTN or the magnetic sensor wires
>> before breaking in.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On 8/8/2006 10:07 PM, IVB wrote:
>>> add the Elk M1EZ8 to your list of panels to check out.  For a great
>>> site to review the Elk, check out www.cocoontech.com
>>>
>>> I use the Elk M1 Gold. See my site below for the GUI software I use to
>>> manage it.
>>>