Re: Noise...

[Matt Ion <soundy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Y'know, I've made pretty much the same plea... it all falls on deaf ears
(or monitors, as the case may be).  Bass will tell you he only does it
because Frank Olson disses him... Frank will respond that he's only
doing it to counter Bass's "lies"... and on it goes.  They're both
children who have to get in the last jab every time, and it's all "it
started when he hit me back first".

Mark M. wrote:
> I have been lurking around now reading the articles posted to the newsgroup,
> and it seems to me that discussion about alarms went out the window a long
> time ago. After filtering out RLB's HTML and PR posts, the number of
> messages gets pretty thin. Don't get me wrong, I think RLB is a complete
> ass, but it seems to me (judging by sales at the company, and the
> technicians that I talk to every day), that the DIY market is a very small
> and not all that terribly lucrative. Most of the high quality equipment out
> there is not really for the DIY installer anyway. But I digress. The serious
> discussion here about alarms went out the window a long time ago, and RLB
> has what he wants, he has abused the group to the point of the destruction
> of any useful message threads. Someone will pop in, post a legitimate
> question, and five replies in it becomes a RLB vs The World flame war.  That
> tends to drive any useful discussion right out the window. Which is too bad,
> as I have always found Usenet to be an invaluable source of information on
> other topics that are of interest to me. Someone suggested in an earlier
> thread that an alt.security.alarms.moderated be created, which I think is a
> splendid idea. So also is the creation of an alt.security.alarms.diy. There
> are always the DIY's that are actually competent, and can install their own
> alarms. Mostly ones that are already in the construction trades and have a
> good working knowledge of how to run wire, or properly position wireless to
> minimize false alarms, and maximize coverage and engineer (Do you really
> need a contact on that third floor Pella bay window casement?)  their own
> systems without going into an overkill mode. At this juncture, if I was
> going to have an alarm put in my residence (I rent at the moment, having
> recently relocated to here from another state), I would look for a reputable
> company. I could do it myself, but after 19 years as a drill pusher and
> attic rat, I would much rather watch someone else put it in. I can change my
> own oil, but I still just go to Jiffy Lube because I am lazy and don't want
> the bother. The majority of customers out there (or end users if you prefer)
> would rather have a professional system installed. The average DIY'r is a
> source of income, you can charge them a lot to go in and clean up the mess
> they've made. Something that cannot be done through telephone support. You
> can tell them how to program over the phone, but trying to troubleshoot a
> false alarm, or telling them how to "feel" for the drill busting into free
> space at the top of the window header is impossible. Caveat Emptor. There
> are always going to be a small percentage of people that are going to try
> the DIY route, and will get there stuff from BBA. Too bad, so sad. People
> have the right to make their own mistakes, and to throw money into an
> incinerator if they choose. When they figure out that all they are getting
> is warm, and that there are cheaper fuels, they will come around. With or
> without the constant flaming. I am sure that this thread is going to get
> someone's BVD's in a bundle, and to be honest, I don't care. I came into
> this group to share information, and to keep track of the current state of
> the industry (at least amongst those that post here). What I have found is a
> comedy of errors. Eventually the group will go back on topic.
> Note to RLB...I have you kill filtered (squelched your noise) so any replies
> that you post to me will go unread and unacknowledged. Your opinions and
> your idiotic flames mean zilch to me. Wanna say something to me, reply to
> the e-mail address. Flood it with crap, and MSN/Hotmail will simply make you
> a "junk sender". Been there. Done that.
> Mark M.
> ...fades back into the shadows, out of sight, but not out of earshot...


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