Re: Ka -Bosch Ka -Bosch DuMP DuMP

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, I agree with one caveat:

The appearence of the "Silence" choice should be optional in installer
programming. A small house doesn't need Silence & it just confuses some
people....and it's just not there for systems with a 692 kp so it really
should be easy to do.

Back when we were a bigger company DMP actually burned us custom chips, in
fact we were probably one of the 1st to have Home/Away instead of All/Perim
I think it was on 1512's and straight 1912's.






"Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:bZOdnZVokrOhZ7_eRVn-gA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> It's about as dumb a question as why manufacturers don't place a "silence
> alarm" button on the keypad.
> Punch in your code, and press "command". How easy is that? Radionic's or
> DMP.
> It can or cannot disarm the system, and it can or cannot send a signal
> that
> the system was "silenced" by, and get this....an "authorized" user.
> (Freaky)
> Then add areas to the equation, two or three hundred users....
> oops, sorry, residential applications slip my mind occasionally
> Why haven't any of you resi guys just interfaced the alarms with the
> "clapper"?
> Clap on.....Clap off.....
>
> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:d2CUe.10$M22.315@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> damn I think you hit the head on the nail dood
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>> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:O6udnQWjH9O7JL_eRVn-2w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Typically DMP is a little too easy, and meant for people who understand
>> > how
>> > to answer a simple question. This is typically a hard concept for
>> > women,
>> > and
>> > some men, because they like to answer a question with another question.
>> >
>> > "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:gxtUe.104$Se2.3737@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> If the customer can understand the concept of an ATM machine it's
> really
>> > not
>> >> as hard as you make it sound.
>> >>
>> >> Compare adding a code in Ademco with adding/changing/deleting a code
> with
>> >> DMP - DMP is far easier...if a code is in use the keypad will tell you
>> > with
>> >> Ademco...nothing happens or maybe it does. With DMP if the client
>> >> understands the basic concept of a menu they can figure anything out.
>> >>
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>> >> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:170817cacf2b92f23bc048274fa15eff@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Crash Gordon said:
>> >> >
>> >> >>Yah it's pretty hard to push any of the 4 top row buttons to silence
> a
>> >> >>trouble on a DMP (ANY of 4 buttons)...or to say YES to: "Bypass ?"
> when
>> >> >>something is opened and you want to bypass?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Sounds like whomever programmed the DMP doesn't know the product -
>> >> >>or
>> >> >>whomever instructed the users doesn't know the product.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Point is, it isn't intuitively obvious that you push an unmarked
> button
>> > to
>> >> > silence a trouble.  If DMP were smart, they'd mark a button
> "SILENCE."
>> >> >
>> >> > And you've got to admit that DMP sucks big time when it comes to
>> > resetting
>> >> > a smoke detector.  They're the worst in the industry for that.  For
>> > those
>> >> > of you who don't know DMP, this is how you reset a smoke:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1.  Press COMMAND.  The display says "ARM      DISARM."
>> >> > 2.  Press COMMAND again.  The display says "MENU      NO    YES."
>> >> > Press
>> >> > the key underneath the word YES.
>> >> > 3.  The display says "ENTER CODE: "  Enter your code, then push
>> >> > COMMAND.
>> >> > 4.  The display says "ALARM SILENCE?"  Press COMMAND.
>> >> > 5.  The display says "SENSOR RESET?"  Assuming you realize that a
> smoke
>> >> > detector is a sensor, you've come to the right place.  Press any of
> the
>> >> > unmarked keys in the top row.
>> >> > 6.  Congratulations!  You've managed to reset a smoke detector on a
> DMP
>> >> > panel.
>> >> >
>> >> > By contrast, here is how you reset a smoke detector on an Ademco
> panel:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1.  Enter your code and push the OFF key.
>> >> >
>> >> > Even that's not good enough.  Why can't manufacturers include keys
>> > labeled
>> >> > "SILENCE" and "RESET."
>> >> >
>> >> > - badenov
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