Re: Do YOU ACTUALLY Own Your Equipment??

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Your post is so rambling that I find it hard to respond in any direct way to
specifics, except to add a few general comments. For some reason, you feel
obligated to take on the role of "defender of the faith" as far as objecting
to my position on one sided long term contracts. I sure can't see how
anything I say casts me in the role of someone who is insulting all dealers
who do use long term contracts. As I've said ad nauseum (but you don't seem
to differentiate this issue very well), it's the UNNECESSARY use of long
term contracts under certain conditions that I object to. However, I
seriously doubt that anything I say here affects how anyone runs their
business, and least of all how their potential clients react to their sales
proposals. I don't flatter myself that much !! But if it actually does give
some reader cause to think and ask questions of their alarmco, so much the
better !! And if that is Mikey's version of the "white knight on a horse",
well ....so be it !!

However, you are dead wrong when you suggest that consumers should just lay
back and accept industry practices that don't do a damn thing for them, just
because "that's the way it's always been", or because current practices are
to the "equity advantage of the industry", or simply "the way you feel it
should be" regardless!!! And if better informed end user shoppers make
things a little more difficult for alarmcos by simply asking for a better
deal more slanted to their best interests, then that's too damn bad !! All
you or others gotta say is no !! That's called the free market chief !! Its
exactly the same parallel when conventional alarmcos got caught by the sharp
marketers and the "free system" concept. We all objected at first, and many
still do for many valid reasons, but it didn't stop the spread of sales of
these types. We're seeing the same thing with the AlarmForce crap and their
"two way voice" !! The point is, the market will go where it will go
regardless of what you or I say or do !! But for you to suggest that the
things I say have THAT much affect that they would actually cramp someone's
style in the sales game is somewhere between paranoid and just downright
stupid ! It sure as hell isn't realistic in the slightest !! I suppose I
should be flattered !! But  it always amazes me how the people who object
the most to what I say are the ones doing it in those ways....

To change the subject back to unlocking boards, almost all the locked boards
that come to me come from other alarmco's, NOT end users. So if anyone is
shafting anyone, you are right, I really wouldn't know; it would be those
alarmcos you so like to stand up for that would be screwing others !! The
very odd end user that sends me a board directly is always responding to a
situation where he has bought a home where he clearly owns the system, but
the original alarmco has locked the board and won't give him the time of day
unless he signs a contract for monitoring ! Last I heard that's extortion !!
If the original alarmco didn't get paid properly, they have no right to take
it out on the new owner of the home. If they own the equipment, the onus is
on them to remove it before the house changes ownership, NOT take out their
vengence on the new innocent owner !

At least while your posts have gone up in length, they are shorter on your
usual brand of vulgar profanity ! Who knows, you keep it up and you also
might take away my title of longest poster on the ng.

One thing you can absolutely count on though, I'm not going anywhere, and
I'll be sure to give you lots of ammunition along the same lines in the
future for you to rant on about......

RHC...alias..."the white knight".....:)))


"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1133582127.012869.271040@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> R.H.Campbell wrote:
>
> Ya know, I wasn't even going to respond to this because your replies
> are so obtuse that I'm wondering if you're intentionally playing
> stupid.
......snip balance for brevity.........


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