Re: Help identifying a wire

[julian <julian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:33:38 GMT, JOhn <barnesj@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>Juilan:  I don't know how you manage to infer so much about myself and my
>business based on my simple questions.

Well how about providing information so I don't have to continually
"infer".

>I am not working in BC.  This is a former AB customer of mine that's now had
>two local BC companies come to look at the prewire to attempt to ascertain
>what the wire in the closet could be for.  I told them to email the pics and
>I would see what I can do.
>
See, now that you've actually taken a second to explain, I might
actually be able to help.

>Despite your rambling, you have yet to offer any solution.

Oh, wait, it's coming to me............. Sorry, my powers of wiring
tracing via IP are not able ID that wire. It must be some alien design
I'm not familiar with.

>Thanks to everyone else for your constructive replies.
>
>The builder cant seem to find any record of the prewire being done, and they
>are suggesting the homeowner may have went in and did it on their own, just
>before the drywallers.
>
>I think this is just a scapegoat, as the new homeowner has already suggested
>to the builder that they should be liable for bringing the wiring up to
>standard.  Builders I have worked for here have their homes inspected
>consistently through every phase of construction.  I doubt anyone could
>'sneak' and unauthorized 24 pt prewire in under their nose.
>

Ha! " inspected consistently through every phase of construction" Have
you ever heard of the leaky condo crisis? Around BC, you're lucky to
get an inspector on the site for anything, nevermind electrical. I
haven't had an electrical inspector check work for a couple of years.
Plus who's to say the wire isn't run correctly. Just because you don't
know what it's for doesn't mean it's done wrong.

Based on the picture, it's obvious it was run for an alarm tranformer.
Duh!

>
>
>On 8/21/05 11:39 PM, in article snsig11arvimk1enhhqms9d5h91bu2em2d@xxxxxxx,
>"julian" <julian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:31:06 GMT, JOhn <barnesj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/18/05 5:20 PM, in article m79ag1pbe732oktm7gp4fo2hkhdn58q1h6@xxxxxxx,
>>> "julian" <julian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:48:39 GMT, "JOhn" <barnesj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ive seen my share of poorly done prewires, but this one really has me
>>>>> scratching my head. The PIR's are wired at 6ft. The doors are drilled
>>>>> through  the casing, not the jamb, so a standard flush mount 3/8 contact
>>>>> isnt an option.  The keypads are wired to the same hieght as the swiches
>>>>> (not above)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yup sounds like an alarm prewire done by an electrician.
>>>>
>>>>> all that aside....
>>>>> This is a pic of the inside of the mstr bdr walk-in closet, above the door.
>>>>> http://www.members.shaw.ca/barnesj/
>>>>> The cat5 dangling out of the wall runs to the alarm panel location.  Any
>>>>> idea what device it may have been intended for?
>>> Im sure its cat5.
>>>> Are you sure it's CAT5 and not CAT3? We use CAT3 for Power (yes we use
>>>> doubled up conductors)
>>>>
>>>>> ... And whats the 120v duplex outlet for?  In the old days they used to put
>>>>> an outlet centred, above a high traffic door for a clock.
>>>
>>> Huh?  Where do I state that Im going to plug in a transformer at this
>>> location?  Im just trying to figure out why the outlet was installed in this
>>> position.
>>>> Uh, plug in transformer for an alarm? Are you sure you know what
>>>> you're doing?
>>>>
>>>>> Also, wondering if the exposed terminals on the t-stat transformer are a
>>>>> violation of code. (this is B.C. Canada)
>>>>>
>>> You clearly don't have the answer, so, why bother responding?  I'm licensed
>>> in Alberta, hence my question regarding BC code. It is strictly against code
>>> here to have exposed terminals, unless the transformer is mounted at the
>>> breaker panel.
>>>
>>
>> If you're licenced in ALBERTA what are you enquiring about BC
>> Electriacal Code for? Working in BC are we? Unlicenced are we?
>>
>> The unprotected secondary terminals are fine according to the BC
>> Electriacal Code.
>>
>>>> OK, when you ask a question like this, I have to ask if YOU really
>>>> know what you're doing. Low voltage transformers, how to install them,
>>>> where, etc., etc., are all covered in the Electrical Safety Code which
>>>> you should know if you are a properly qualified and licenced alarm
>>>> tech in BC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Julian (an actual TQ'd tech in BC)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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