Re: Opinions on alarms systems configured/monitored over IP network

["Ranger" <hd_ranger@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Finally got a quote from a DMP dealer on my package - roughly the same as
the Bosch solution, BUT  I get an XR500NL and a 7060 KP instead of a 'dialer
capture module,' and 738A  interface modules for my Ademco wireless systems.
So instead of adding more equipment to a mixture,  I  will get all new
'matching' panels!  Kind of like 63 takeovers.

I guess I am going for the SIS Windows Alarm Center software.  It is close
to our DOS program in structure, so the operators should catch on easier.
The facility manager told me today the security upgrades were going in the
budget.  I can't wait....

New fiber network, new 3COM phone system, new panels, new receiver, new
software, and all before the end of the year.  At least the IT Manager is
handling the network end; now if I could just convince him the phones should
be his, too!!!!!

I am going thru the programming manual for the 500 panels now. I imagine I
will be doing the installs, with dealer help setting up the head end
equipment.

Thanks for the info, Jack.



"Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Let me know how it works out. I haven't met the new rep out there yet.
Gary
> Ross, the old rep there, moved on and started his own company. I made the
> mistake of getting another dealer (from Cambridge) fired up with them. I
> helped them (layout and installation) of a Leer Corporation Plant in
> Zanesville. I do a lot of work in Ohio. Let me know if I can ever help
out.
>
> Jack
>
> "Ranger" <hd_ranger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:g9W%d.1091$z.47@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Thanks, Jack.   I have a call in to DMP's Ohio Region Sales Manager.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:Opqdnb01_vuiZKLfRVn-2g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Radionic's will be your most expensive option. You should look at DMP,
> the
> > > head end will be 2/3 cheaper, and all field equipment will be about
1/3
> > the
> > > cost of Radionic's, plus the product line is backward/forward
compatible
> > up
> > > and down the entire product line. No software fees, dongle horse crap,
> or
> > > expensive monitoring solutions. What you see as $9,100 with Radionic's
> > would
> > > cost under $4K with DMP. I was a Radionic's dealer for 8 years....now
I
> > > actually make money, have half the stock. I've been using DMP's
Network
> > > Routers for 5 years, and built a Central Station in 2002 totally
> dedicated
> > > to Internet Monitoring (TCP/IP), with video verification. Been there
> done
> > > it....
> > >
> > > "Ranger" <hd_ranger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:hsL%d.717$z.619@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > I, too could use some info on IP monitoring. We are getting ready to
> > > install
> > > > a campus-wide network on fiber, along with a 3Com V5000 phone
system.
> I
> > > am
> > > > monitoring 63 security/fire panels at present, over our PBX
(Executone
> > > IDX),
> > > > with a Radionics D6500.
> > > >
> > > > We are looking at Bosch's NetCom System. To convert,  we will be
> > spending
> > > > close to $40,000 on the equipment, not counting (if needed) new
> > automation
> > > > software (currently SIS Alarm Center).  Although the D6600 and
license
> > key
> > > > are not cheap, the bulk of this cost is for the dialer capture
modules
> > at
> > > > the panels.
> > > >
> > > > Since our present phone system is backed up at the head end by  a
> > UPS/nat.
> > > > gas generator, we are looking at leaving one active copper line to
> each
> > > > building, as an emergency phone, and have the panels seize that line
> as
> > a
> > > > backup.  The fiber system  will only  have 8 hours backup for
switches
> > and
> > > > phones, and due to our situation (residential treatment facility)
> that
> > > > ain't good enough.
> > > >
> > > > Does the C900TTL-E dialer capture module support 4 + 2?  (still have
> 15
> > > XL-1
> > > > panels )
> > > >
> > > > What kind of speed can we expect on reporting?
> > > >
> > > > Will Alarm Center work with the 6600?
> > > >
> > > > Is this a viable long-term solution?
> > > > Another option is to convert at each end using the new phone system.
(
> > no
> > > > prices on that yet)  I would like to get away from my copper lines
as
> > > > primary, due to 'issues.'
> > > >
> > > > Are the prices I have competitive?  (no decisions made on the
upgrade
> > yet)
> > > > D6600 receiver        $4,951.00  (Includes a telephone line card)
> > > > D6680-E120             $  712.80   network interface
> > > > D4020                       $  271.20   9000 series capture module
> > > > C900TTL-E              $  413.60  generic capture module (On orders
of
> > 50
> > > or
> > > > more)
> > > > D6201-USB            $2,748.90  (Software License dongle)
> > > >
> > > > I am slowly gathering answers to these q. and others, but any input
is
> > > > appreciated.
> > > > So many questions, so little time...
> > > >
> > > > Rick C.
> > > > Security Manager, XXX
> > > > hd_ranger@xxxxxxxxxxx  (sterilize with heat)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Pat Coghlan" <info@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > > news:u8E%d.2591$nK.422856@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > I'm looking for opinions on commercial alarm systems that enable
> alarm
> > > > > panels to be configured and monitored over an IP network -
requiring
> > > > > little or no keypad programming at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am familiar only with the Summit eNT system by Edwards (formerly
> > > > > Integrated  Security Solutions), which does both alarm and access
> > > > > control and allows the panels to be configured from the central
> site -
> > a
> > > > > hard requirement for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
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