Re: Need Help With Patch Panel System Design

[windcrest <passport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 30, 2:11=A0pm, Michael Roback <michael.rob...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I am finishing a telephone and data wiring project in my home. I have
> four lines coming in of which three are live. I have run two cat 5e
> cables to every wall of my house. I think I am going to install channel
> vision structured module products as I can terminate the incoming lines
> with with a RJ45 plug that plugs into the DSL filter, and then to a
> phone distribution patch panel etc. etc. I will go into more detail
> later. What I am wondering is this ... when I terminate the RJ45 plug
> for the 4 pairs and then at the station location, how can I control what
> line 1, 2, 3 and 4 are. Does the pin position on the RJ45 denote this or
> the way it was set up in the NID? The reason I am asking this is that on
> another of the Channel Vision products (a front door device) .. I can
> plug the device in and it will ring every line 1 in the house when
> depressed at the front door intercom. One will then be able to pick up
> any line 1 and talk to the person at the front door. How can I determine
> which line is l? Also, if I terminate the Cat 5e cables in the closet
> with RJ45 plugs to plug into the patch panel, and I set up the jacks at
> the locations with RJ45 jacks and then just plug RJ11 cables from the
> phones into those jacks? Not sure if RJ45 jacks will accommodate RJ11
> plugs securely? Any help would be appreciated. BTW, if anyone knows of
> any structured wiring patch panel type of devices that are plug and play
> let me know. Do not know if Leviton makes such a device. Using a patch
> panel seems to be easier for me to control which jack or data port at
> which station I want to heat up. The ones that I do not need, I can just
> cover up with a wall plate until I need to terminate them and use them.
> Some are now behind furniture, etc. I can just leave cables not plugged
> in, hanging in my home run closet until I need them. Any advice will be
> appreciated.

I dont like the structured systems as there is not enough breathing
room in the panels.  I just home run everything to a 19 inch relay
rack, using modular jacks, then I patch the relay reack to the
centralized devices router, LAN switch, doorfone, security, video
ditribution, etc.  I use blank 19 inch panels then just pop in modular
"keystone" jacks as-needed, the system grows with me and everything is
nice and open and easy to get to.

As for lines 1 through 4 on a cat5, if you were looking at the jack
the two inner most pins are line 1, then go outward left and right,
the two outer most pins are line 4.

I run 2 phone lines over my voice cat5 network and I piggy back
infrared receivers and emitters on the outer most pins (what would be
lines 3 and 4).  So I can use any remote control in any room to blast
infrared control throughout the home.  But if you nee 4 phone lines
you will be using up all the wires in your voice network.

I also ran aditional cat5 for the data network, those simply terminate
at a 24 port gigabit-speed switch in the rack closet.
 Now-a-days you can run VOIP on your gigabit LAN so the separation
between having separate voice and data networks are blurring, but
infrared distribution is a good use for old phone runs that are no
longer in use for voice.