Re: Long Live the Incandescent!

[Marc_F_Hult <MFHult@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:59:26 -0400, "petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message  <h3i3ag$88q$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

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>"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe de
>discussion : psadnb2KkKxf68HXnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> "Marc_F_Hult" <MFHult@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:2r3f55ln06csh49o70ea44r0nuii4tfm27@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> Using Dave's broken logic, there is nothing worth doing because any given
>>> use
>>> which in turn is only a fraction of the total usage within any of four
>>> major
>>> energy sectors. There are very roughly 16 use-sector subdivisions so
>>> each
>>> accounting for ~~6%  -- EACH ONE OF WHICH  needs to be reduced for global
>>> efforts to be successful.
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>> Thank you Marc for making that point.  It's not a matter of which ONE is
>> the solution.   Every little bit counts.  There is the matter of 'total'
>> consumption cost.  But I'm pained to read the endless rants from idiots
>> decrying ANY new movement because they've managed to brew up some numbers
>> that make it look bad.  The status quo is obviously not working so some
>> movement is going to be necessary.  I accept that this will take multiple
>> efforts on many different fronts.  Thankfully there are more choices,
>> naysayers be damned.
>>
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>One sector that is not being looked at enough is the Fridge and freezer's
>that people have at home...
>
>One of the worst energy dinosaurs fridge that most American have is the old
>20+ years fridge that keep our beer cold in the garage..
>

Back on Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:44:26 -0500 in message
<bsght2tugqmtkturoib3k56dajr723itsk@xxxxxxx> in comp.home.automation,
Marc_F_Hult  wrote (in part):

	" The study I cited http://www.kouba-cavallo.com/art/eval2001.pdf
	that Dave was apparently using to disparage folks that actually
	 measure things and understand what they measure ("bureaucrats
	and ivory tower academics")  was a study of actual measurements
	of actual older refrigerators in actual use in the service area
	of the metro Cincinnati utility that provided electricity for
	the fridge in Dave's house."


See http://www.kouba-cavallo.com/art/eval2001.pdf "Low-Income Refrigerator
Replacement -- Selecting the Worst of the Worst" . )


HTH ... Marc
Marc_F_Hult
www.ECOntrol.org